I have read Japanese <stereo sound>,S3900 is cheaper than S4700,but they ranked S3900 more upper than S4700.
Is that truth?why?
please comment
I have read Japanese <stereo sound>,S3900 is cheaper than S4700,but they ranked S3900 more upper than S4700.
Is that truth?why?
please comment
46 lover
It is possible that people might think the S3900 "sounds better" than the S4700 given that it is a bit newer, keeping in mind that the network has a major influence in performance. The components themselves? Well the little 100FE-12's, while very nice, are not 2216Nd's. In other words, the S4700 network might be why some people would think the S3900 sounds "better". I have not looked at the networks closely to see if there are any major differences.
I remembered that you have said S3900 is very good.Originally Posted by 4313B
The magazine said S3900 issued at the same time with DD67000,maybe it have some improvements than S4700 in network?
you mean 2216Nd is far better than 100FE-12?
If I have time and I remember I'll look at the two networks and see if anything stands out between them.While the 100FE-12 is a very nice ten-inch driver the 2216Nd is a significant step up. It has a few more goodies built into it as per its designer.you mean 2216Nd is far better than 100FE-12?
The 1200FE-8 and 1200FE-12 are also considered to be a bit more "expensive" than the 100FE-12.
By comparison, the 100FE-12 is quite a bit more "expensive" than the ten-inch in the 1000 Array. The 100FE-12 is similar in built quality to the legendary LE10, although it does sport faston connectors.
Comparing old to new, the 800 Array and 1000 Array use inexpensive low frequency transducers, not necessarily a bad thing, kind of like the old L16, L19, L26 and L36 Decade's, as well as the 4301, were better than they had any right to be given their low cost 116 and 127 low frequency transducers.
At one point I asked if there was a JBL Pro equivalent to the 2216Nd, this was before the M2 was introduced, and I was told there really wasn't anything Pro had that was close to as good. I guess that's why Pro went with the 2216Nd in the M2.
Great,maybe the editors consider the price and apply and give the rankIf I have time and I remember I'll look at the two networks and see if anything stands out between them.While the 100FE-12 is a very nice ten-inch driver the 2216Nd is a significant step up. It has a few more goodies built into it as per its designer.
The 1200FE-8 and 1200FE-12 are also considered to be a bit more "expensive" than the 100FE-12.
By comparison, the 100FE-12 is quite a bit more "expensive" than the ten-inch in the 1000 Array. The 100FE-12 is similar in built quality to the legendary LE10, although it does sport faston connectors.
Comparing old to new, the 800 Array and 1000 Array use inexpensive low frequency transducers, not necessarily a bad thing, kind of like the old L16, L19, L26 and L36 Decade's, as well as the 4301, were better than they had any right to be given their low cost 116 and 127 low frequency transducers.
At one point I asked if there was a JBL Pro equivalent to the 2216Nd, this was before the M2 was introduced, and I was told there really wasn't anything Pro had that was close to as good. I guess that's why Pro went with the 2216Nd in the M2.
You made things clear including S4600 i asked you before,S4700 is much better than S4600.
Thank you
Better how? Technically? Yes. Soundwise? That's a personal decision. I can tell you that JBL considers the LE14 to be "old school" and uses it anyway because it remains viable. The 2216Nd is considerably more advanced compared to the LE14. Please keep in mind that quite often I am speaking from a "potential" perspective. Could I actually live with an LE14H-3 or LE14H-4 at this point, knowing what I know? Absolutely.
Hi guys, I have had my S4700's for about 5 months now. I too was a little disappointed in their performance initially, however after hours and hours of just letting these this just run in the back ground it's only in the last month they have woken up.
Woken up is an understatement! They are everything I had loved when I first auditioned them last year. I have never had a pair of speakers hide they secrets for so long, breaking in I mean. Verdict?
they rock!!, downside, my neighbours hate me, what is the most impressive aspect of these things? The bottom end! They do weighty instruments so well, I.e bass guitar and kick drum.
Presence, sound stage, dynamics, all very impressive! Tracy Chapman's "Baby Can I Hold You" just about kicks you through the wall when some volume is applied. INXS's "Burn For You" is just an experience to be hold. Alicia Keys' "Empire State of Mind (part11)Broken down" is so spacious and articulate.
I think now is time for me to look at some cables, something I have always been very cautious of! I think the S4700's are going to let me explore the whole cable thing with great confidence. I'd love to hear from you guys at a good direction to go with the whole cable thing. I use a Bryston BDA-2 and Music Fidelity's M6500i integrated amp, 500w x 2 into 8ohms. I like the offerings from Cardas, in particular their Clear range.
Thanks....
Sounds you have enough patience to wait your baby grown upit also turns out that"run in" is so important for CD player\AMP\speaker and even for cables
Please describe more how they have woken up! My 4365 are 2 months old now, and are getting better all the time, but I hope there is more to come. Initially voices were sounding thin, but that is gone now.
I will try to make DIY silver speaker cables later on. I have monoblocks, so i only need short speakercables. I have a friend who is a goldsmith, and can get me pure silver.
For signalcables, I will use Canare or Belden xlr from blue jeans cables, I think. Any one tried those?
Well I am certainly glad that these systems are coming around for you guys. The components are first rate and the designer is stellar so I was a wee bit surprised at the initial reports.
From my experience,silver speaker cables is not suitable for JBL speakers,silver cables usually are bright and delicate,but JBL speakers are bright enough.
we usually chose KIMBER 12TC,PAD VENUSTAS,Shunyata,TiGLON MGL-SP1,MIT, Van Den Hul Inspiration and so on.
Again,as somebody say,room acoustic processing is major thing.
That's exactly my experience. Anyone considering the S4700s should keep that in mind. Meaning be prepared for a long break in period.
But once they're broken in, the do in fact, rock.
You nailed it, S4700. Kudos.
S4700 owner.
Just read the specs of the S4700, it says 300Watts(RMS), it means that one can use 600Watts of amp power and run continous in 300Watts, if this dosen't open up the S4700, the I don't know what will. Lend me a a pair of S4700 and I will let them sing when connected with one Crown MAi5000 amp
We tried them with both current model McIntosh MC 402 and vintage MC 240.
No offence intended towards any partisans or owners of the S4700- they simply left us feeling rather disappointed. Perhaps a lack of break-in time may have played some role- I cannot say. YMMV.
Martin, this is another of several threads where you're taking people's rankings as gospel. They are not. Reviewers, users, who cares, an absolute "rank" is stupid. Speakers are a very personal thing and it's natural for some people to prefer one over another. It's like a jigsaw puzzle- the listener is one piece, the speaker is another, and the room a third, and the amp/system a fourth. One speaker might fit the puzzle better, even if the other speaker has a "bigger" piece (more potential when optimized). Rankings are meaningless at a completed speaker system level. Now, for tweeters being evaluated for a specific platform, there might be an absolute best.
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