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    JBL OEM: Made by JBL for Others

    "Yes they are OEM JBLs. In the early days (through the 60s actually), JBL made speakers under various OEM arrangements. They made them for Ampex, DuKane, Heath, and probably others. These drivers are identical to stock JBLs with different paint schemes and labels. "


    --Zilche's recent post about the oddball Boliviar JBL imitations got me thinking about compiling a list of companys that JBL has made drivers for in the past.
    Such a list might be useful for someone searching Ebay or other auction sites for drivers that are JBL in every aspect except paint and a foilcal.
    Below is what I've picked up from this forum and Ebay recently:
    Perhaps some of you senior, ex-JBL employees can add to the list:


    DukDuKane (5A350 driver or JBL Pro 2410)

    Heathkit (D123 woofer)

    Lansing by Ampex
    Jim Lansing by Ampex (Model 150-4 32 Ohm Woofers: RARE MINT PAIR: Consecutive Serial Numbers)


    Wilson Audio, Provo Utah, JBL built 18" XS Woofers:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...724299040&rd=1
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    Add the LE-14A and the LE20-1 to the Heath list. Also, there was a recent auction where a woofer was listed as a Wilson made by JBL, and I think that there were Sumo woofers made by JBL also.

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    Yep, some of the Sumo subwoofers in the early '80s used the 2245H bass driver. IIRC, this sub was the ONLY subwoofer system to ever make the "Stereophile Class A" list, until possibly VERY recently (as in within the last few years)...

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    It's gonna be a double list. Those with "branded" drivers, and those OEMs that incorporated JBL components.

    Citation comes to mind....

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    A cut and paste from the JBL Pro List. Just use the recone kits as the driver part numbers.

    TRANSDUCER PRICE REPAIR KIT
    MODEL (LIST) KIT DOME GASKET A-T-R NOTES WEIGHT

    23101 $164.00 C8RE130 21060 21058 1-O-6 Fender
    023101-A $164.00 C8RE130 21060 21058 1-O-6 Fender
    023101H $164.00 C8RE130 21060 21058 1-O-6 A6 Fender
    023125A $150.00 C16RE120 21060 21031 1-O-6 A6 Fender
    023125J $150.00 C16RE120 21060 21031 1-O-6 A6 Fender
    43091 $154.00 C8RE140 21060 21058 1-O-6 Fender
    043091-A $154.00 C8RE140 21060 21058 1-O-6 Fender
    043091H $154.00 C8RE140 21060 21058 1-O-6 A6 Fender
    43109 $144.00 C8RK110 48844 21813 M 1-O-6 Fender
    043109-A $144.00 C8RK110 48844 21813 M 1-O-6 Fender
    043109H $144.00 C8RK110 48844 21813 M 1-O-6 Fender
    92577 $150.00 C8RE120 21060 21031 1-O-6 Fender
    092577-A $150.00 C8RE120 21060 21031 1-O-6 Fender
    092577H $150.00 C8RE120 21060 21031 1-O-6 A6 Fender
    401-132 - No Longer Avail. - - 1-O No Longer Avail. Heath
    401-133 $272.00 C8R2212 31385 32756 1-O-6 A4 Heath
    401-134 - C8RLE14A 50201 21811 1-O-6 Available from Heath


    JBL Consumer

    MODEL (LIST) KIT DOME GASKET A-T-R NOTES WEIGHT

    5A350 $234.00 D16R2410 - - 1-O-6 Dukane
    5A355 $244.00 D16R2421 - - 1-O-6 Dukane
    5A360 $204.00 D16R2440 - - 1-O-6 Dukane
    5A395HF - No Longer Avail. - - 1-O No Longer Avail. Dukane
    5A415HF - No Longer Avail. - - 1-O No Longer Avail. Dukane
    5A415LF - No Longer Avail. - - 1-O-8 No Longer Avail. Dukane
    5P350 $204.00 D16R2440 - - 1-O-4 Dukane
    5P355 $242.00 D16R2470 - - 1-O-4 Dukane
    5P360 $204.00 D16R2440 - - 1-O-4 Dukane
    70777022 - No Longer Avail. 21060 21058 1-O No Longer Avail. Peavey
    970302-A $164.00 C16RE130 21060 21058 1-O-6 Fender
    970401 $154.00 C8RE140 21060 21058 1-O-6 Fender
    970401-A - No Longer Avail. 21060 21058 1-O No Longer Avail. Fender
    970402 $154.00 C16RE140 21060 21058 1-O-6 Fender
    970402-A $154.00 C16RE140 21060 21058 1-O-6 Fender
    Ampex 8 - No Longer Avail. - - 1-O No Longer Avail. Ampex
    MI11419 $234.00 D16R2410 - - 1-O-4 RCA
    MI11426 - No Longer Avail. - - 1-O No Longer Avail. RCA
    MI11426A - No Longer Avail. - - 1-O No Longer Avail. RCA
    MI11427 $204.00 D16R2440 - - 1-O-4 RCA

    Rob
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    401-132 - No Longer Avail. - - 1-O No Longer Avail. Heath

    would be the old LE20.

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    Originally posted by Don C
    I think that there were Sumo woofers made by JBL also.
    Yep, Samson (2235H) and Delilah (xover)

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    Add:

    Fosgate and Revel subs....

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    Yep, some of the Sumo subwoofers in the early '80s used the 2245H bass driver.
    I'm not aware of a 2245 based sub, but I did hear the 2235H Samson and Delilah X-over in the late 80's and thought it was the best sub I had heard to date - better than JBL's own B380. In the subwoofer market, you can also add Janis to the list. I believe the original SW-1 from the mid 70's used a JBL LE15A. A current manufacturer that uses JBL drivers is the Italian Zingali company.


    If you add pro sound companies to the mix, the list is endless
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    "I heard it in the late 80's and thought it was the best sub I had heard to date"

    Me too! I can't find my spec sheet though! Could you please scan yours and post it?

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    Will do
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    Originally posted by Don McRitchie
    I'm not aware of a 2245 based sub, but I did hear the 2235H Samson and Delilah X-over in the late 80's and thought it was the best sub I had heard to date - better than JBL's own B380.

    You guys may be remembering it better than me... it may be the 2235 I'm thinking about. But I specifically DO remember, the Sumo sub being on the Stereophile "Recommended Components" list for a number of years... and being the ONLY sub so rated.

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    We also made a large (3'w x 10"h x 30"d) horn for Langevin, the 260 8" speaker for Ampex (a 208 with a black anodized dome and two small felt circles), and the 12" speakers for Superscope (although those were branded as JBL's). I seem to recall we also still made a few special items for Western Electric at the time (60's).
    Harvey "Hifi" Gerst
    ("Hifi" was my nickname at JBL.)

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    a few years back I had a DuKane/JBL 175 pair

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don McRitchie
    A current manufacturer that uses JBL drivers is the Italian Zingali company.
    Don,

    Do you know which JBL drivers Zingali uses? I read that Giuseppe Zingali used JBL units a number of years ago when he was building professional studio monitors, but I had heard that he switched to Italian manufacturers (18 sound, B&C, Ciare??) for his current models.

    I like Zingali's current flagship model style (#215) - sort of a M9500 with a round wood horn! It would be nice to think that there is a JBL component in that loudspeaker.

    Best regards,

    Doug

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