Obsolete drivers

[more10]

I finally found the goes into list. Very dissapointing reading. JBL stopped producing a number of cone kits. It is not much fun to design for a driver that cannot be repaired. I have no idea on how this affects market value of working drivers, but cores should be worthless.

Obsolet Kit Goes into
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C16R2115   LE8TX, 2115, 2115B, 2115J
C16R2123J  2123J
C16R2202   2202B, 2202J
C16R2204   2204J
C16R2215   150-H (very old), 2215, 2215B
C16RE120   M21-16, M22-16, D120F-6, K120-16, E120-16
C16RE130   D15S, M31-16, M32-16, D130F-6, E130-16, E140-16
C16RE140   M41-16, M42-16, D140F-6, E130-16, E140-16,
C16RE145   M46-16, E145-16, M45-6
C2REONSUB  EON POWER SUB
C4R2240    2240G
C4RE130    M31-4, M32-4, M35-4, D130F-2,
C4RE155    E155-4
C4REON10P  EON POWER 10
C4RK145    M45-4, K145-4
C8R115H-1  115H-1
C8R116A    116A, 116H
C8R116H-2  116H-2
C8R116H-3  116H-3 (67071-01X)
C8R119HS   119HS (Obsolete - Use C8R119HS-1)
C8R119HS-1 119HS, 119HS-1
C8R127A    127A
C8R127H-1  127H-1 (66265X)
C8R128H    128H
C8R2025    2025HPL
C8R2108    2108, 2108H
C8R2110    2110, 2110H
C8R2115    2115A, 2115H
C8R2122H   2122H
C8R2142    2142H
C8R2145ALF 2145ALF
C8R2145LF  2145LF
C8R2150LF  2150, 5A415
C8R2203    2203A, 2203H
C8R2212    123A-1, 2212, 401-133
C8R2220    130AS, 2220A, 2220H
C8R2240H   2240H, 2245H, E155-8,
C8RE120    M20, M21, M22-8, D120, D120F, E120-8, K120
C8RE130    M30, M31, M32-8, D130, D130F, D130H, E130-8
C8RE140    M40, M41, M42-8, D140F, E130-8, E140-8, K140,
C8RE145    M46-8, E145-8
C8RE155    M55-8, E151-8, E155-8, 2240H, 2245H
C8RK110    M10, M11, M12-8, D110F, E110-8, K110, 2120
C8RK145    M45, K145
C8RLE10H-1 LE10H-1, LE111A, LE111H
C8RLE111A  LE111A, LE10H-1, LE111H
C8RLE111H  LE111H, LE111A, LE10H-1
C8RLE52    LE5-2
C8RLE59    LE5-9, 2105, 2105H, 2150 HF
C8RLT-1    SLT-1
C8RM121    M121-8, M121-8PL
C8RM209A   M209-8A (124-28000-02X)
C8RMI10    MI-10, MI10-1
C8RMI12    MI-12
C8RMI12-1  MI-12-1
C8RU801RCA 801A, 801AA
C8RU801RCB 801B
C8RU803    803
D16R2410   LE175-200, LE175DLH, 2410, 5A350, MI11419
D16R2460   LE100S, LE175HP, 2460, 5P350
D16R2482   2480, 2482, 2485J
D16R375AB  375AB, 375EX, 375FH, 375HP, 5P360,
D4R024     O24, SLT-1 HF
D8R034     O34
D8R035TI   O35TI
D8R044     O44
D8R052TI   052TI (74856X)
D8R066     O66
D8R2145HF  2145, 2145A, 5A395
D8R2415    2415H
D8R475ND   475ND
D8RLE20    LE20-1, 401-132
D8RLE25    LE25, LE25-1
D8RLE254   LE25-4
D8RLE26    LE26
D8RU801DA  801A, 801AA

[ratitifb]

Actually my disapointment is as follows
Obsolete C8R116A - 116A, 116H

Fortunately i have stock

[more10]

Missed that one, remade the list to include all obsolete kits.

[earspoiledbyjbl]

I'm glad I bought six of the 2123H cause they might be next. Do you know if the 111A 10" has been obsolete yet cause I have some of them also?

[more10]

You mean LE111A? It is in the list in the first post. The list is scrollable.

[earspoiledbyjbl]

Darn now I need to baby the ones I have. Didn't see that it scrolled my bad.

[more10]

The more I think about it the angrier I get. Thomann lists 24 EV cone kits, but only 8 jbl cone kits. The EV kits are more than half the price of JBL kits.

Can it be that JBL kits are so expensive that people just buy new drivers instead of repairing old? And when they don't sell enough kits JBL drops them?

Did they not look at what the competitions is doing? EV used to be as expensive as JBL, but they dropped their prices. Appeartly they also sell them. Ever heard of aftermarket kits for EV?

[more10]

The thread E140 = 2225??? lists which old drivers are mechanically equivalent. Old E cores can be reused as frankenwoofers using C8R2235, C8R2225 and C8R2202.

Ill start a DIY thread about equipping obsolete drivers with aftermarket cones.

[4313B]

We were warned in 2010 to get what we needed/wanted at that time because it was all coming to an end. This is three year old news now.

Did they not look at what the competitions is doing?

Well, they have moved to significantly lower labor markets but I guess they forgot to scale their pricing accordingly. People had been whining about the prices of JBL recone kits for years, hell, even some JBL employees had lamented the prices for years...

[more10]

We were warned in 2010 to get what we needed/wanted at that time because it was all coming to an end. This is three year old news now.

I joined the forum 3 years ago, and this information must have passed me by.

[Mr. Widget]

Well, they have moved to significantly lower labor markets but I guess they forgot to scale their pricing accordingly.

No, you've got it all wrong... the cost of production went up. Higher reject rates... and the amortization of new facilities and the cost of decommissioning the old facilities. The prices must go up.


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