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    2404h,2405h,2405...

    Hello,
    Maybe it has already been a forum on that, I have not found ... Just then, I have 2404H 2405H and the 2405 does anyone know why the 2405 looks the best? (with the best possible settings)
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    I'm not sure what you're looking for, but this might help: http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...or-Comparisons


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    Thank you Widget, i'll take a look at this thread.

    Best regards.
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    "Why it looks the best?" - I don't understand the question.

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    Hello Lee,
    Just after trying the three models I thought the 2405 was the best, but this is only my opinion, I wanted to know if something special was why the 2405 is different; horn, diaphragm, alnico magnet ...?
    trying the 2404H on one side I found it better than the 2405 but after installing the two I have not managed to find the sound of 2405, warmer and more natural...Perhaps I should try again...

    best regards.
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    There is no performance difference between the 2405 and 2405H. That said there is tremendous unit to unit variation especially with previously used JBL ring radiators... this was shown in some of the measurements posted on that thread.

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    Yes Widget,
    I have no analyzer so I can not measure. My ears can not hear above 13kHz!, But I still prefer the 2405/077 others 2405H, 2404H ...
    I think the 2405 gives the best results with a filter as T; 1uF, 0.2mh, 1.5UF, L-pad and 18ohms ...
    maybe I can try to connect two different tweeters (12/16+12/16ohms = 6/8ohms) to have the qualities of both, finesse and punch ... etc ...
    this is crazy! I'm kidding!
    Good evening... here it's 11 pm, I'm going to dream of speaker ...
    regards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by delahais View Post
    Hello Lee,
    Just after trying the three models I thought the 2405 was the best, but this is only my opinion, I wanted to know if something special was why the 2405 is different; horn, diaphragm, alnico magnet ...?
    trying the 2404H on one side I found it better than the 2405 but after installing the two I have not managed to find the sound of 2405, warmer and more natural...Perhaps I should try again...

    best regards.

    My confusion was based on the use of "looks the best" wich is a visual appreciation. I guess that what you had in mind was probably "sounds the best"...

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    The 077 "looks" the best, hands down.
    If we knew what the hell we were doing, we wouldn't call it research would we.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1audiohack View Post
    The 077 "looks" the best
    some say it sounds better than 2405

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratitifb View Post
    some say it sounds better than 2405
    My car always seems to run better after it's had a bath, too.
    ". . . as you have no doubt noticed, no one told the 4345 that it can't work correctly so it does anyway."—Greg Timbers

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    The 2403 is the best looking tweeter ever made in my opionion!


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    Google translation...
    I understood that he is better that I not communicating on this forum!
    special thank you to BMWCCA ... very funny ...
    life is short, no time to lose.
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    In the process of building up my HT system, planning to use slot for Super tweets

    I am not sure that I can hear anything above 15K (according to recent tests), but I can sense differences in my ring radiators and my slots.

    I "feel" quite a difference between the two, but I am unsure which is better. Should I just give it up and go with the rings, which sound louder (possibly due to my ancient ears abused over the ages, sensing that little 12K bump) or should I go with the slots which "feel" more accurate. I have six of each and four N7000 crossovers, to set them up safely.

    My newest project involves a front pair for a Home theater set up with two cabs, right and left, sporting singles of E140s, 2370s, 2425s and either of the rockin' big ultra tweets.


    I have built a single test cab to assess my results, mainly worried at first how my cabs will support the low end response, due to how my "custom sizing to fit my need" will affect low frequency response, but I am now even more toiled by which super tweet to use.

    Suggestions?

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    From your post I'm going to guess you are referring to bullets as "ring radiators"... ring radiator is the term for the diaphragm style. The 077/2405, 075/2402, 076/2406, and 2404 "Baby Butt" tweeters all use annular ring diaphragms.

    As for the bullets sounding louder than the slots... They are 5dB more sensitive, so if you don't have a proper compensating network in the system, yes they will certainly be louder.



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