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    4344 comes home at last!!!

    After a long selection process,4344 is finally at my friend's home.

    Hook up with a set of EC(electro companiet),EMC-1UP+EC4.8+DUAL AW180,and many cabels(including PAD.SILVERTECH etc,over 100KRMB) together with is Spendor SP100+ST50 (supertweeter)

    It sounds great:warm,thick and solid,nature,great momentum,easing!but lack of some smooth and delicate
    I set ultra HF at" +3",HF at "-2".
    Being no 2308 len,does it result very much? how to make up for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_wu99 View Post
    After a long selection process,4344 is finally at my friend's home.

    Hook up with a set of EC(electro companiet),EMC-1UP+EC4.8+DUAL AW180,and many cabels(including PAD.SILVERTECH etc,over 100KRMB) together with is Spendor SP100+ST50 (supertweeter)

    It sounds great:warm,thick and solid,nature,great momentum,easing!but lack of some smooth and delicate
    I set ultra HF at" +3",HF at "-2".
    Being no 2308 lenses,does it result very much? how to make up for?
    Hi martin_wu99,

    I do believe that You will be satisfied with your 4344. In order to give You some 'idea' about the differences between 2308 with/without expectation, here is attached my measurements with JBL 2446J drivers with 2311 horn (believing almost the same spatial radiating characteristics as yours 2307/2312) measured with and without mentioned JBL Lenses 2308. My suggestion is "for sure" to try to get and to use 4344 with 2308 Lenses.
    There is no smoothing in the measurements, but You can 'imagine' what it would like.

    Regards
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    Very nice setup, martin!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ivica View Post
    Hi martin_wu99,

    I do believe that You will be satisfied with your 4344. In order to give You some 'idea' about the differences between 2308 with/without expectation, here is attached my measurements with JBL 2446J drivers with 2311 horn (believing almost the same spatial radiating characteristics as yours 2307/2312) measured with and without mentioned JBL Lenses 2308. My suggestion is "for sure" to try to get and to use 4344 with 2308 Lenses.
    There is no smoothing in the measurements, but You can 'imagine' what it would like.

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    Ivica
    Ivica
    Thanks for your professsipnal explaination
    We both feel that the HF is somewhat too much,so i adjust the HF button at "-2" position,does it work?
    and we are looking for 2308 lenses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_72 View Post
    Very nice setup, martin!!!
    Thank you Dave
    Please show your S4700 setup
    How about S4600,S4700,S4800?i have a difficult choise in 4344mkii,4365,1400,4600,4700,4800
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_wu99 View Post
    Thank you Dave
    Please show your S4700 setup
    How about S4600,S4700,S4800?i have a difficult choise in 4344mkii,4365,1400,4600,4700,4800
    You're welcome. I don't have a camera right now! I will have to use a throwaway one with film.

    I don't know all of those, really. But I will say the S4700 is good!
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    A good friend of mine took this photo. Cell phone camera, so excuse the quality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_72 View Post
    A good friend of mine took this photo. Cell phone camera, so excuse the quality.
    Thanks for your show

    Then what's your setup?
    I think it''s too simple and crude,please be good to S4700
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_wu99 View Post
    Thanks for your show

    Then what's your setup?
    I think it''s too simple and crude,please be good to S4700
    Ok, no problem...

    Amp: Bryston 4BSST

    preamp: Bryston BP6P

    CD player: Onkyo DX-7555

    Turntable: Technics 1210M5G w/ Audio Technica AT150MLX cartridge

    interconnects: FM Acoustics P.I.T., Technics OFC from turntable to preamp.

    speaker cable Bryston SC4.


    Why simple and crude?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_72 View Post
    Ok, no problem...

    Amp: Bryston 4BSST

    preamp: Bryston BP6P

    CD player: Onkyo DX-7555

    Turntable: Technics 1210M5G w/ Audio Technica AT150MLX cartridge

    interconnects: FM Acoustics P.I.T., Technics OFC from turntable to preamp.

    speaker cable Bryston SC4.


    Why simple and crude?
    I think this gear can not match S4700,they are too lower grade
    Why not try Pass\Gryphon\Burmester\Mark\Krell\Coda\Nagra\Jeff\ ARC\Boulder\Threshold\Goldmound\FM,or simple Accphase\Lux?
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    I don't understand. Bryston is a very good stuff too !!!
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    So - this is your friend's speakers and system in the picture, and not your own?
    Looks like a very nice system to enjoy, thank you for sharing.




    Quote Originally Posted by martin_wu99 View Post
    After a long selection process,4344 is finally at my friend's home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_wu99 View Post
    I think this gear can not match S4700,they are too lower grade
    Why not try Pass\Gryphon\Burmester\Mark\Krell\Coda\Nagra\Jeff\ ARC\Boulder\Threshold\Goldmound\FM,or simple Accphase\Lux?
    I will probably upgrade in the future. Takes money to do so. I don't have the money yet! This is an expensive hobby!
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    Quote Originally Posted by caladois View Post
    I don't understand. Bryston is a very good stuff too !!!
    It is, but it's not considered real high end by some people. That's ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_wu99 View Post
    I think this gear can not match S4700,they are too lower gradeWhy not try Pass\Gryphon\Burmester\Mark\Krell\Coda\Nagra\Jeff\ ARC\Boulder\Threshold\Goldmound\FM,or simple Accphase\Lux?
    And you're a dickhead for mentioning it. No, I won't cut you slack for a language barrier. I think you know exactly what you mean to say.

    Nothing wrong with what he's got. Why not insult me because my 4345s are running on $300 worth of 20-year-old Crowns bi-amped? Remember, it's all about the sound, not how much money you spend. Most capitalists in a communist society forget that and go only for the bling. Those who can afford it in any country should be donating the cost of those amps to feed the poor and starving in their or some other country where it would buy so much. But then corruption doesn't seem to have a conscience.

    Back on topic, it appears even Dave's not impressed whether it's the speakers or the amps is hard to tell: http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr...pkr&1353037807

    Now I'll shut-up if you will!
    ". . . as you have no doubt noticed, no one told the 4345 that it can't work correctly so it does anyway."—Greg Timbers

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