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    Yes, I could go through dozens of different amps and still not find the right one! I don't have that kind of money to keep buying and selling!
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_wu99 View Post
    Hi-fi and hi-end are by no means cheap,it's an expensive game
    Yes, I know. The S4700s were not cheap! I was referring to your comment on Pass Labs. That you said they were too expensive, and then you show more expensive brands!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_72 View Post
    Yes, I could go through dozens of different amps and still not find the right one! I don't have that kind of money to keep buying and selling!
    I don't want you buying and selling
    Usually,we are very familiar with local audiofileshop boss and get his permition to bring machines back our home to have a try.
    One of my friend tried Hegel,Gryphon,Pass,Bryton,Jadis,etc for his SP100 and 4344 for nearly two years,and finally bought a set of EC
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_72 View Post
    Yes, I know. The S4700s were not cheap! I was referring to your comment on Pass Labs. That you said they were too expensive, and then you show more expensive brands!
    Cheaper is better.but taste is the most important thing(that why we are willing to spend so much money on)
    If both expensive ,we must chose the one that we more prefer
    Trying Threshold SA/1 maybe a good idea.
    My goal is S4700 too,so your choise is a good reference for me,that's why i'm so interesting in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_wu99 View Post
    I don't want you buying and selling
    Usually,we are very familiar with local audiofileshop boss and get his permition to bring machines back our home to have a try.
    One of my friend tried Hegel,Gryphon,Pass,Bryton,Jadis,etc for his SP100 and 4344 for nearly two years,and finally bought a set of EC
    Ok, well unfortunately I don't have that luxury around here. Dealers here in the US are skeptical, and if they do let you borrow, they usually want you to buy it first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_wu99 View Post
    Cheaper is better.but taste is the most important thing(that why we are willing to spend so much money on)
    If both expensive ,we must chose the one that we more prefer
    Trying Threshold SA/1 maybe a good idea.
    My goal is S4700 too,so your choise is a good reference for me,that's why i'm so interesting in.
    True. Yeah, I have no way of trying that. I would have to buy one used. Not interested in doing that, really. That's cool, with break in, it has developed into a good speaker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_72 View Post
    with break in, it has developed into a good speaker.
    How long time did it take?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_72 View Post
    Ok, well unfortunately I don't have that luxury around here. Dealers here in the US are skeptical, and if they do let you borrow, they usually want you to buy it first.
    What a pity
    It's difficult to select gears only depon on other's suggestion
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_wu99 View Post
    What a pity
    It's difficult to select gears only depend on other's suggestion
    You grab your media, go listen in the store, make your choice, and take it home.
    Some shops will allow a return if it just doesn't play well - but - there could be a reason for the death of high end audio shops in the US,
    other than the fact that most people have tin ears and view audio gear much like an appliance purchase ...
    Another reason why a lot of us may stay in the used gear market ...

    the US is so big and so spread out its hard for a pure audio shop to make a living.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_wu99 View Post
    Chosing a machine to match JBL is a very tuff job
    Not at all, you simply use the amps JBL uses to voice their loudspeakers and you're good to go. Now think... what would Harman use...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4313B View Post
    Now think... what would Harman use...
    Harman brands:

    Though their logos at the bottom of their web pages show only these:

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    Thank you BMWCCA. That was really nice.

    Hopefully that will head off alot of amp angst for some people.

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    Or cause more!

    I'm just a Luddite who has used Crown with JBLs for over four decades. Well before Crown was adopted into the Harman Family. I'm guessing when they're free, the choice would be Levinson. But then I've read professionals who decree that all electronics sound the same!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubbleboy76 View Post
    How long time did it take?
    At least 2 months. They get better every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4313B View Post
    Not at all, you simply use the amps JBL uses to voice their loudspeakers and you're good to go. Now think... what would Harman use...
    I'd say Mark Levinson? That's what they demo with at the shows.
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