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    Looking for best horn tweeter for 4-way setup

    Hello dear community

    just finishing build my 4-way system
    and now looking for right (probably best if it didnít cost like car)

    active filters


    sub 30-70hz B&C 15ps100 in TL (labyrinth)
    Midbass 70-500hz Beyma 10g40(ported) insane driver best punch i ever get.
    Radian 950pb + E-jmlc 300 the midrange is just excellent
    Fountek cd 3.5h (already sold them) Clear very detailed sound but too light as i can hear


    For sub and mid there are 2 lme49830 with 2sk1530 2sj201 output
    for midrange and tweeter - zen4 - with pure film output capacitor

    8 channel stepped relay attenuator with additional control of each 2 channels

    so searching for the tweeter

    what i used before in this system

    Cd 3.5 ribbon in horn (plays everything but horn midrange had other character )
    Beyma cf21f slot tweeter (to harsh sound but i like it more now)
    Selenium st324 slot tweeter(very smooth but sometimes it seems tweeter does nothing )


    what Iím looking on now

    newcomer Faital super tweeter
    http://www.faitalpro.com/products/sc...p?id=502010090
    like old jbl 075 077 ring radiator but..... not metal diaphragm and impedance is much better then beyma cp21f
    dispersion bad because on bullet horn...

    jbl clone BMS 4540 with horn(looked on e-jmlc 2000 but it not so smooth and drops down at high)

    B&C de7(1 inch voice coil + 0.75 throat) + e-jmlc 1400 (more smooth but drops at high too and donít really sure about sound quality)

    Find old 077... in good shape but... it is hard and maybe they are much like beyma cp21f

    and one more budget P-audio pht-409 smooth but donít sure about dispersion

    any other suggestions are welcome

    there are here so much people with unbeliveble expirience ... so i hope to find the good choice
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    your work is nice!


    with respect to active filters, Marchand will build you most anything you want --
    and I have heard good things about their products/commitment to service...

    although, to be candid, I have no firsthand experience with them

    http://www.marchandelec.com/

    there may be folks here on this very board that can help also...


    good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by louped garouv View Post
    your work is nice!


    with respect to active filters, Marchand will build you most anything you want --
    and I have heard good things about their products/commitment to service...

    although, to be candid, I have no firsthand experience with them

    http://www.marchandelec.com/

    there may be folks here on this very board that can help also...


    good luck!
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    Gorgeous woodwork & a very cool modular concept!
    but - I have to say, the horn looks like something from early marcel duchamp ...
    (said playfully, no harm intended) ...
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    tweeter

    Maybe some Fostex tweeters like T900a or better T500aMKII or if you are on the budget T90a
    I have T90a which replace JBL 2405H.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hjames View Post
    Gorgeous woodwork & a very cool modular concept!
    but - I have to say, the horn looks like something from early marcel duchamp ...
    (said playfully, no harm intended) ...
    Got Arai 290s horn (tad clone) before - much much worse

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    Quote Originally Posted by neskor View Post
    Maybe some Fostex tweeters like T900a or better T500aMKII or if you are on the budget T90a
    I have T90a which replace JBL 2405H.
    Listend to Fostex t925a with 5k crossover point sound bad, much more bad then even budget pht-409
    and of coure fostex as for me has only disadvantage
    high co point . poor directivity. metal diaphragm

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    Than, maybe Electro Voice T350, TAD ET-703 or Beyma TPL150H

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    Quote Originally Posted by neskor View Post
    Than, maybe Electro Voice T350, TAD ET-703 or Beyma TPL150H
    Beima maybe will sond the same as fountek
    now looking for ev st350(are the equal to t350?) .... tad is too expensive

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    Quote Originally Posted by cka3o4nuk View Post
    Beima maybe will sond the same as fountek
    now looking for ev st350(are the equal to t350?) .... tad is too expensive
    "T350 uses the same voice coil as the ST350. ST350 has a different magnet structure, and wider dispersion.The T350 is much flatter on-axis than the ST350, due to the different horn designs. The T350 was intended to provide "flat" on-axis output without EQ, but to achieve flat on-axis response with the ST350, EQ is necessary."

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    Quote Originally Posted by neskor View Post
    "T350 uses the same voice coil as the ST350. ST350 has a different magnet structure, and wider dispersion.The T350 is much flatter on-axis than the ST350, due to the different horn designs. The T350 was intended to provide "flat" on-axis output without EQ, but to achieve flat on-axis response with the ST350, EQ is necessary."
    Thanx!
    ill try pht-409) looks very similar to ev

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    Quote Originally Posted by cka3o4nuk View Post
    Thanx!
    ill try pht-409) looks very similar to ev
    Just bought radian 465pb and now looking for wide dispersion and flat horn gor it!

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    Very nice cabinet work.I have a pair of T350's and they didn't measure much higher than a pair of Altec 288's I have.



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    Got pair of radian 465pb
    and also pair of e-jmlc 2000 horns
    so there is only 1 question left
    where to place tweeter
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    I would choose the second option, to avoid the UHF bouncing off the rear of the mid horn and to get a wider/homogeneous vertical dispersion. If you choose the other options you should add foam of something on the rear of the mid horn to at least prevent the bouncing...

    Time alignment can be done in your active crossover. Perfect alignment is impossible at these frequencies outside of a very narrow axis anyway (not that it is of any consequence though: phase is not an issue there...)

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