new bass cab for TAD1601b's. scoops, horns etc.

[bottleneck]

Hey all..

Hope you're all well, haven't posted in a couple of years.

Current setup -
8khz+ JBL 2405 (2nd order)
800-8khz - tad 4002 (on a 300hz tractrix)
>800hz tad 1601 (in a bass reflex cab).


Basically, the problem is this - the output of the bass cabs is just not enough to keep up with the horns. The physical output of the cabs just isn't enough. Bass is lacking

Obviously I want to keep the quality high aswell as increase output.

Reading on the internet, it seems that the 1601b is not suitable for a front horn due to the characteristics of the drive unit- such as an A7 cab or similar. The same articles seem to reccomend a scoop for added output for this driver.

Has anyone got any real-world experience with the 1601, and getting increased output from it?

Thanks in advance.

[bottleneck]

To add to my question -

http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/products/4...01b/specs.html


Does anybody know if it's actually true that a TAD 1601b (see above specification) wouldn't be a good match for a front-loaded horn ?

I am purely supposing it on the following

http://www.goodsoundclub.com/PrintPost.aspx?PostID=3969

Rather than technical understanding of what specifications of a drive unit make it suitable for different bass enclosures.



(the main goal is extra ''clout'' whilst maintaining sound quality).

[Lee in Montreal]

If your system is multi-amped, what about simply turning the attenuators up?

The driver has a Qts of 0.31, which is a bit high for a scoop. Perhaps you could do two woofers in the same cabinet.
http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...1&d=1203497959

Lee

[bottleneck]

..mind you this guy looks happy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeHaVqcaCB0



**edit .. just saw your post Lee.

Unfortunately these things cost me so much, I'm limited to using just the single pair and making the most out of them.

[bottleneck]

love these bass cabs .. I know it's a JBL copy, but what a nice job

http://audio-database.com/PIONEER-EX...del2301-e.html

[Lee in Montreal]

love these bass cabs .. I know it's a JBL copy, but what a nice job

http://audio-database.com/PIONEER-EX...del2301-e.html

Maybe you could try to locate a set of Altec A7, of JBL 4560 empty cabinets and make some tests. You can probably get them for cheap too. What about building single woofers JBL 4550?. All the above suggested set-ups will be very efficient down to 80Hz, and will match your horns.

I thik that a front loaded horn is what you shuld be after. Not a rear loaded one with their phase problems.

[bottleneck]

yeah, my original thought was some VOTT cabs or 4560 type cabs, but the article saying the Tad 1601 isn't a good choice for this type of cab put me off.

Maybe that's just nonsense though.

Wouldn't be the first time the internet gave me a bum steer..