John,
Any update on what the cure might be?
John
John,
Any update on what the cure might be?
John
I sent you an email through the forum since I'm back at the office and it's so unusable from here. Tracert from the office is still timing out on the last leg. I's just as soon communicate via email about this since I can't hardly access the forums from the office.
I also discovered I DON'T have those MS updates on my office computer, so there goes that theory, at least as far as the office access goes. Again - it looks like I'm dealing with 2 different issues.
The odd thing is that this is the only site affected. I even frequent another forum that uses the same forum software and I have no problems...
John
"Tracert from the office is still timing out on the last leg."
Right, but different peering in the two cases as traceroute should show.
If the site works from your home as you posted last night and you can traceroute from there
and
the site doesn't work from your work and you can't traceroute from there, it points to a congested link in the middle.
I sent you a PM.
John
The email message I sent was basically the same as what I posted. I'm contacting a consultant I work with for thorny routing issues to see if he has any ideas. It's the home issue that really has me stumped - I'll email anything new.
John
John
Susie tested from Colorado Springs using Qwest DSL and everything was normal.
C:\>tracert audioheritage.org
Tracing route to audioheritage.org [198.80.11.57]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.0.1
2 60 ms 80 ms 50 ms clsp-dsl-gw01.clsp.qwest.net [67.42.184.1]
3 60 ms 60 ms 50 ms 67.42.184.93
4 80 ms 60 ms 50 ms cos-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.152.33]
5 50 ms 80 ms 50 ms cos-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.152.2]
6 61 ms 70 ms 80 ms kcm-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.205.182]
7 80 ms 90 ms 81 ms dal-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.8.141]
8 80 ms 90 ms 80 ms dal-brdr-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.25.50]
9 90 ms 80 ms 90 ms POS5-2.BR2.DFW9.ALTER.NET [204.255.168.229]
10 70 ms 90 ms 80 ms 0.so-1-3-0.XL1.DFW9.ALTER.NET [152.63.99.210]
11 80 ms 90 ms 80 ms 0.so-0-0-0.TL1.DFW9.ALTER.NET [152.63.0.193]
12 91 ms 100 ms 100 ms 0.so-7-1-0.TL1.STL3.ALTER.NET [152.63.0.45]
13 120 ms 111 ms 120 ms 0.so-3-0-0.CL1.DEN4.ALTER.NET [152.63.89.158]
14 120 ms 111 ms 110 ms 177.ATM6-0.GW4.DEN4.ALTER.NET [152.63.93.201]
15 110 ms 120 ms 111 ms csd-gw.customer.ALTER.NET [157.130.160.62]
16 120 ms 120 ms 121 ms apollo.csdco.com [198.80.11.57]
Trace complete.
Interesting path - via Kansas City, Ft Worth, and Salt Lake, then back to Denver.
Last night when your were at home and the AH site was working for you, there were 40,000 simultaneous connections to Apollo due to another site on the machine. Now it is down to a more normal 650. I doubt if the average idle time dropped below 80% - guess that FP co-processor helped - amazing what a 386 will do
Apollo # netstat -n | wc
663 3923 54654
John
Last edited by John Nebel; 09-21-2004 at 11:26 AM.
Itīs acting up again, slow and will not "mark this forum read" on the first try. ??
Alex,
It could be that it's your ISP. I haven't seen any problems with Apollo throughout this long thread and have spent a good number of hours loooking at obvious and obscure things as has Ann.
Do any of the sick or dead routers on
http://www.internettrafficreport.com/namerica.htm
affect you?
John
Last edited by John Nebel; 09-21-2004 at 01:00 PM.
OK - I'm now at a different office, completely different area. Tracert is fine, but I'm still seeing the same kind of delays I do on my home system. Some things open right up, other things take 10-20 seconds. Again, this site only, whether logged on or not - all others fine.
John
"OK - this is weird. I fired up a different computer at home that doesn't have all the latest updates from MS and at least right now it's flying through everything, over wireless no less! I'll try narrowing it down and keep you posted.
John"
Still haven't narrowed much down.
Nope - 'wider than ever.Originally posted by John Nebel
[BStill haven't narrowed much down. [/B]I'm testing from yet another computer right now, and same big delays here only. There must be something flaky on the routes from here to there somewhere...
John
Later on when you get home, it will be interesting to see if the PC on wireless works.
Is it your own in-home wireless LAN, or a wide area one?
J.
PS.
I'll be in Colorado Springs later and able to look at the site via the winding route through Kansas, Texas, and Utah
Last edited by John Nebel; 09-21-2004 at 03:36 PM.
OK, I'm back home. My home net consists of a first computer hardwired to a DSL modem. The modem also includes a wireless gateway which is how I connect with the other computer. For whatever reason the wireless has no problems at all.
The home connection is much better than it was even this morning - about 80% OK now. But some functions still really hang.
For instance, I'll read a set of threads in one forum just fine and mark it as "read". But then when I click on "Main Forums" at the top, it starts to load the page, hangs for 10-20 seconds, then flashes in. Then it will seem OK for say the first thread, but then when I open the next thread, it will again hang 10-20 seconds, then flash in.
'Doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to it, though it does seem to be somewhat localized. It was definitely a big problem at both office locations today, but seems to be getting better at home.
I'll keep checking in...
John
Hi John,
Greetings from snowy Colorado Springs via Kansas City, Ft. Worth, Salt Lake, Denver, and Boulder and then to Apollo and on to you when you see this via the route previously traced.
The AH response time is OK although this DSL is a little slower on every site I've looked at than the T1 at home typically is.
vBulletin doesn't flash up at once here but takes maybe 1.5 seconds. I counted one thousand one, but didn't get to one thousand two.
John
PS
We are using WNT, W2K, and Mac Os X with Netscape/Mozilla.
Last edited by John Nebel; 09-21-2004 at 08:00 PM.
I only live a few miles from John. The site responds quickly for me, either from work or home.
It seems to have reached a stalemate. One computer at home is fine, my regular one still has about 10% hangs, (hangs 10-20 seconds wheen clicking on links about 10% of the time) - I'll still follow the GDI/Jpeg MS patch issue on that one.
Tracert still fails on the last hop from the office, so we still have the issue here. I'm sure that's the reason for the big hangs from the office. This started over the weekend.
It's still odd to me that this site is the only one I'm having problems with, whether at the office or home - other forums using the same software with tons more traffic just fly! Something somewhere changed over the weekend - I just wish we could pin it down...
John
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