ARRAY 1000 vs 4429 studio monitor

[DK11706]

Hi everyone,

This is my first post, so be gentle

I'm thinking about buying a pair of array 1000 speakers, but unlike the 1400 serie there is not much info on the 1000, so if you have any expirence with the 1000 serie, please share! Do they sound harsh, is the woofer output good enough a high volumes, and do they suffer under the same cabinet vibrations as the 1400 do?

Another set I'm looking at is the new 4429, they are using a lower series horn and tweeter but the woofer is the well know 1200FE-8, the array 1000 is using a "unknow pro" woofer unit but better horn and tweeter, does anyone know what's the best combination?

I've heard both speakers in a short demo, and liked both, but maybe one is better in the long run, which pair would you choose, retail price is the same in the offer I've recieved ?

Thanks, and sorry for my bad english, I'm Danish .

Rasmus

[4313B]

I can tell you that the ten inch in the 1000 Array is nowhere near as nice as the twelve inch in the 4429. It isn't even a contest. The twelve costs hundreds of dollars more. Yes, hundreds of dollars. (3.56 times more to be exact)

But, in the end, it all depends on which you think sounds better.

[Mr. Widget]

Do they sound harsh, is the woofer output good enough a high volumes, and do they suffer under the same cabinet vibrations as the 1400 do?

Did you actually hear these "terrible" vibrations, or did you hear about them... sorry, my use of English might not be clear... by that I mean do you have firsthand experience hearing the 1400s sounding poorly, or did you read about it or have someone tell you about it. I bring this up as, while the 1400 might sound a little better if the cabinet was even more inert, I have compared them to many other speakers, and they always come off very well in the comparisons.

Unfortunately I have never heard the 1000 Array and so I can not comment on them.

BTW: Welcome to the forum, and your English is just fine.


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[DK11706]

I've never heard the 1400, and the cabinet vibrations I've read about in this forum and another one I can't remember the name of. When I auditioned the Array 1000 I did notice some vibrations from the cabinet when I put my hand on it, more than I would have expected at the given volume. I wasn't able to push the volume any further because of the sales guy watching me, so I can't say what happens when things get ugly . But anyway they sounded great.

[ronaltronics]

I have never heard any noise or vibration of a cabinet from a single Array 1400 I have ever sold since they were first introduced. Maybe someone dropped a few in shipping......... Ever since I read that on this forum I have been checking for this noise in all 1400's that cross my path, And as I said not one has ever had any low frequency cabinet vibration noise.

I cannot comment on the sound of the 4429 monitor because they are sold to us here in North America. But I can comment on the Array 1000's. They are no where near the Array 1400's but the fit and finish is as supurb as the Array 1400's. The smaller compression driver does not bother me because you get what you pay for.

As far as the sound they are a family member of the Array series and I would have to say they are one hell of a toe tapping loudspeaker at this price point. I also like the fact that there is no cabinet surrounding the Midrange and UHF for a more three dimensional soundstage.

[audiomagnate]

The Array 1400 is the most accurate full range transducer ever invented. YMMV

[ronaltronics]

I personally would say the Everest DD66000 is the best.

[4313B]

I like Greg's "if I could do it all over again" solution - 1500AL with the 1400 Array top end (476Be or 476Mg in place of the 435Al). I suspect the Array horn would have to be moved back an inch or two to align with the deeper 1500AL acoustic center. Anyway, that's for another day.

[ronaltronics]

Yah and brace the low frequency enclourse a little more and all for the $11,500.00 u.s. a pair price. Now that would be the ULTIMATE AUDIOPHILE BARGIN................

[spkrman57]

I like Greg's "if I could do it all over again" solution - 1500AL with the 1400 Array top end (476Be or 476Mg in place of the 435Al). I suspect the Array horn would have to be moved back an inch or two to align with the deeper 1500AL acoustic center. Anyway, that's for another day.

That would be sweet!

Regards, Ron

[JBLAddict]

I like Greg's "if I could do it all over again" solution - 1500AL with the 1400 Array top end (476Be or 476Mg in place of the 435Al). I suspect the Array horn would have to be moved back an inch or two to align with the deeper 1500AL acoustic center. Anyway, that's for another day.

so the 045Ti would stay in the array 1401?

[4313B]

so the 045Ti would stay in the array 1401?

G.T. stated that it would be fine.

The Be version is double the cost. My 1400 Array horns currently have the 435Be and 045Be though. For some reason I was able to get quite a few pairs of 045Be's and only one pair of 045Ti's back when I purchased a bunch.

Same goes for the 435Be versus 435Al, I was able to get a whole bunch of 435Be's but no 435Al's at the time. If I remember correctly the 435Be was roughly three times the cost of the 435Al. The 435Al wasn't that much more expensive compared to the significanty more numerous 175Nd-3 which is used in a bunch of different of systems including the 800/1000 Array and 4429.

[ronaltronics]

The 175nd-3 is also in the new mini k2 (S-4700)

[Mr. Widget]

The 175nd-3 is also in the new mini k2 (S-4700)

Mini K2 my... Let's not discuss that speaker.


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[JBLAddict]

I was able to get quite a few pairs of 045Be's

I was able to get a whole bunch of 435Be's

yeah, that's nice, just keep rubbing it in.....