I checked out,the model is C50SM S8(375+LE15A)ELAC is also very proud of its mushroom HF，but ELAC never has the loose bass that JBL does,in another word，ELAC's bass is too tight.
I checked out,the model is C50SM S8(375+LE15A)ELAC is also very proud of its mushroom HF，but ELAC never has the loose bass that JBL does,in another word，ELAC's bass is too tight.
46 lover
But - the C50Sm is a 2 way from 1967 - it predates the 4320Originally Posted by martin_wu99
... why compare anything to such old tech?
2ch: WiiM Pro; Topping E30 II DAC; Oppo, Acurus RL-11, Acurus A200, JBL Dynamics Project - Offline: L212-TwinStack, VonSchweikert VR-4
7: TIVO, Oppo BDP103D, B&K, 2pr UREI 809A, TF600, JBL B460
Dates certainly could be right but the C50SM S8 is the three-way with the 075 added. About as good as they came back then. C50SM is just the cabinet number.
". . . as you have no doubt noticed, no one told the 4345 that it can't work correctly so it does anyway."—Greg Timbers
Perhaps as good as they came back then, but unless its been rebuilt,
crossovers from 1967 have probably aged and drifted quite a bit by now?
2ch: WiiM Pro; Topping E30 II DAC; Oppo, Acurus RL-11, Acurus A200, JBL Dynamics Project - Offline: L212-TwinStack, VonSchweikert VR-4
7: TIVO, Oppo BDP103D, B&K, 2pr UREI 809A, TF600, JBL B460
No argument there. Best I can tell, Martin's comparison was purely theoretical, anyway. A bit hard to follow but wasn't his point to determine JBL's first use of a 4-inch-diaphragm compression driver with a 15-inch woofer in a two-way system? My point was simply that the S8 was actually a three-way. The two-way S7 used the smaller LE85 driver.
". . . as you have no doubt noticed, no one told the 4345 that it can't work correctly so it does anyway."—Greg Timbers
Oh，you misunderstood me.I just want to correct my mistake:4'HF+15'woofer already appeared in 1962's c50sm s8,but it's not in my comparing list.
I just want to PK JBL similar form modern spearkers.such as 15'+HF(compression driver)+UHF(compression driver)
BTW,I like PKING.
The japanese(stereo sound) said that S8 was JBL first usage of 15'+4'.
my rank:S143<4338<ARRAY1400<4365<K2S4800<K2S4600<K2S4 700<K2S9800<K2M9800<K2S9800SE<K2S9900
4430<S/3100<S3100MK2<K2S7500 (15+HF)
What about the Hartsfield? From 1954: http://www.audioheritage.org/html/pr...hartsfield.htm
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I had a pair of C50SM S8's at the same time I had my 4333's and IMHO they were more enjoyable. Definitely not outdated. I only parted with them because I purchased some Array 1400's.
It only means that you like modern JBL sound.
It's historical relic,it sounds great even in today's standard.
That's not what I said.It only means that you like modern JBL sound.
I found that an odd interpretation myself... I guess sometimes we just hear what we want to hear.
Widget
Yes very strange, especially considering my latst toysI found that an odd interpretation myself... I guess sometimes we just hear what we want to hear.
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It's been a while, time for an update!
I never really became good friends with the ELAC speaker i bought, so yesterday I got my new speakers......JBL 4429
The midrange and treble is still a little harsh and the bass needs to settle in, but oh boy they sound so good already. Right now Neil Young is playing southern man and the guitar is so rough but at the same very ear pleasing, nice.
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