Good to know regarding the coils. I guess I will only stick to iron core on the coils neighbouring lpads.
BTW i have filed a paypal claim. The seller is playing stupid. Even the serial #'s don't match. See for yourselves:
I think it's clear the advert fotos show a pair of 2231a's with JBL original stamped and chalked 2235 cones with a refoam job.
A set with aftermarket generic 15" cones, not even 2235 knockoffs, no markings, nothing.
It's the first time I've been screwed with on ebay. I hope I will not stay with a set of 700USD shitworth JBL drivers.
FYI, I have a pair of freshish re-coned 2235's here. I got the re cone kits from the official JBL dealer here, kits were in unopened boxes and no where on the cones was written 2235.
Nonetheless those I recieved are not original. Paypal has informed me I have to return the speakers (at my cost) to the seller to recieve a refund. That is a ripoff but rather spend 30 bucks than end up with a pair of worthless drivers.
Control 25AV on the deck - L1 - L20t & L80t in piano black - 4312A - 4430
As previously stated - no stamps, no nothing. Please see the pictures from the seller and mine. His pictures clearly show stamps and JBL handwriting. In addition to that there can be seen redish/brown glue residue from the original foam. Also the cone in his pictures is grey. Mine is made of thin, black paperish stuff. Even the serial number does not match the one from the sellers advertised pictures. He deliberately advertised these speakers with a set of fotos of a different pair of 2231a's which were in much better shape. I'm not keeping them, they are shit.
The ones seen packed in boxes are the ones I recieved. They are a different pair than the ones which flipside is seen in other fotos. I call that manipulation.
Even if his intention was to screw you, pissing him off won't help your case. That said, I think there is more ignorance out there than blatant dishonesty.
I can send you copies of the messages I sent at first to him. I did just what you mentioned - suggested he made a mistake and sent a diffetent pair to which he replied ballistic and accusing towards me (the person who has paid for his mistake) which was followed by me being even more severely pissedoff and filing a claim. I know how to handle delicate situations in buyer-seller relationships from the seller pov very well but when someone has no intent to take responsibility and acts like a child from whom a lolliepop was taken away then there is nothing to discuss further. I simply take a note never to do business with such a person again and pass the word out to anyone hipothetically interested in doing so in the future.
The manipulation intentional or not was something he just couldn't back out of for reasons which will never be known to me nor understandable. Just another transaction gone south, not the first and not the last.
I think I couldn't have gotten a better deal than this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI...#ht_500wt_1361
So far so good. I hope the Italian post doesn't mess it up.
Oh I forgot I was kinda screwed again. A set of 2425J with 2425h dias appears to be a set of 16ohm 2425j's with one dia blown. Quite a combination of mistakes in the description. I don't know how the people selling JBL gear happen to mix everything up lately and ship out goods not even nearly matching descriptions. Must be somthing in the water over here.
Anyway - replace with 2 new dia's of desired impedance and you are good to go. You can't buy compression drivers via eBay and expect the dia's to work. Accept working dia's as a bonus.
True, but we have far less drivers floating around the market than in the USA. The drivers came actually from Germany. I haven't yet had a single problem with a deal in Europe, and now two gone south in a week. I've been told a pair of woofs has arrived at my uncles place in PA, so they will be here in about two months.
Meeting with a carpenter tomorrow.
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