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    Quote Originally Posted by 4313B View Post
    she said "OMG! That's atrocious!"
    Did you tell her that many _if not most_ of us think it's beautiful?

    Which makes me wonder sometimes if the placebo effect doesn't come into play, that we find speaker are better sounding when they're big, kind of the same feeling you get about your car being faster and quicker after going out of the car wash

    That is maybe the reason why bose sound so crappy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaulive View Post
    Did you tell her that many _if not most_ of us think it's beautiful?
    The only time my girlfriend told me "Oh Lee, it's so big!" is when she saw the 4520s in the basement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaulive View Post
    Did you tell her that many _if not most_ of us think it's beautiful?
    No because then she would get really confused... you see, she is beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee in Montreal View Post
    The only time was girlfriend told me "Oh Lee, it's so big!" is when she saw the 4520 in the basement.

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    Ditto!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee in Montreal View Post
    The only time my girlfriend told me "Oh Lee, it's so big!" is when she saw the 4520s in the basement.
    I guess I must be the odd man out here... I've never needed 4520s to hear that comment nor do I find large industrial horns to be beautiful... though, I do find these to be rather gorgeous.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Widget View Post
    I guess I must be the odd man out here... I've never needed 4520s to hear that comment nor do I find large industrial horns to be beautiful... though, I do find these to be rather gorgeous.


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    Quote Originally Posted by edgewound View Post
    That looks like something out of a Tim Burton movie.
    Some kind of living thing that would hunt you down - alien insect or some such - gahhhh!
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    Funny, i agree with all of the last three posts
    (regarding the speaker, and except the 'gahhh' )

    Alas, the old Jadis Eurythmie contains no 2441, 2445, or 2446
    (2225H though, IIRC .... big horn had a 'normal' cone driver)

    Ah... here (for the audio-curious):
    http://www.audiovoice-acoustics.com/...read.php?t=420

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    Personally, I'd rather have the Magico Ultima:
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    well, there ya go... or a house to live in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee in Montreal View Post
    I am about to purchase a pair, of the three models mentionned, to be used with 2350 and 2397 horns for home duty (no pea). Which one sounds the best and has the lowest extension?
    Concerning the dimensions of the mentioned 2350 Horn,
    especially keeping in mind the problem about "time delay" differences between mentioned drivers and lower frequency (bass or/end mid-bass) and high frequency (UHF driver) and keeping in mind that you will use 'in-home" environment, I suggest you to think about 2308 Lens + 2311 Horn, and with the frequency above, say, 800Hz, up to say 8~10kHz

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    Can't go wrong with a 2441

    I am not sure about the quality of replacement diaphragms as I think they are after market only now. The 2445 was a dog of a driver. I used to own a whack of them for P.A. use and loved the abuse/power and shear SPL they could put out...practically unblowupable. But, fidelity.... give me a 2441!

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    I have one pair of 2445's that I bought used several years ago that sound as good to me as any of the 10 2441's I have (all with D16R2441's in them) and better than any of the 4 2446's (2 with D8R2445's and 2 with D16R2445's in them) I have. They have been the mainstay of my main livingroom system for a couple of years based soley on their sonic character.

    A little over a month ago I embarked on a 2" driver / 4" diaphragm study that I am just about done / bored (just kidding) with and thought I should grab those old 2445's that I like and check them out.

    I treated them as a black box and measured them for impedance, SPL, 2nd and 3rd harmonics with phase on all measurements and they looked to have D16R2450SL's in them, I took them apart to see, D16R2450's, I didn't even know I had a pair of them.

    What diaphragms did you run in the 2445's?
    If we knew what the hell we were doing, we wouldn't call it research would we.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1audiohack View Post
    they looked to have D16R2450SL's in them, I took them apart to see, D16R2450's
    You mean they were D16R2450SL or D16R2450 ?

    I can't wait to see the result of your experiment!
    I wish you had a 2452 core to include in your study (with an adaptor)! The Radian 950PB cores would also be an interesting case (Guido likes them better than the JBL, and they have that 5-slit phase plug...).

    Finally, you could add some aquaplas to those Be diaphragms to complete the experiment

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