Just purchased a pair of these at a local swap meet. Cabs in good shape, everything looks good, except one woofer needs to be refoamed.
But, one of the woofers is also missing the decal on the motor assy that say's, "JBL Professional series Model 2214H-1"
Any chance, (place) I could get a replacement?
Is their a best refoaming kit?
Also, how would you comapre these to my L65's?
Congratulations on getting one of my favorites! You mention one woofer is missing the decal, which implies the other has one? Post a picture, as I think this is rare. Generally, as part of a factory assembled system, the woofers would have the model stamped on the back of the magnet assembly in white ink, as mine all are. The nice necals were used when the drivers were sold individually through JBL pro dealers (though I didn't know these were available a la carte). There were exceptions to this (all the 250ti's I've seen had the decals on the LE-14H1's, but not on the 108's). There are guys here and on EBay that do reproduce labels, but I've never seen a 2214 decal before, so it may be too expensive to make sense.
Refoam kits are available through Rick Cobb, mailto:[email protected], He also sells on eBay as looneytune2001. If you're not DIY, PM member edgewound here and he can take care of you; don't take them to Orange County Speakers without doing your homework first, and insisting they put the foam on the back of the woofer cone.
I can't comment on your sound comparison, as I've never heard L65's, but I'll be interested to hear what you think. Also, post some pictures so we can see what you got - are they "Walnut" or "Oak"?
HCS Guy,
Thanks for the reply, I have taken pics of the woofers and one cab.
I will be refoaming myself, and even though, (according to what you have said), the replacement woofer, (with the decal on the back) should be newer, it is the one that needs the refoaming. The apparent original (with no decal) appears to be perfect. I am now torn on refoaming the good one. I have strong DIY tendencies, so I shall be refoaming it myself. Thanks for the recomendation. (I have refoamed my L65's, original Advents and ESS's.) BTW, although it is hard to see from the pictures, the "professional" woofer has a rubber surround installed the magnet of the motor assy.
Oh, does anyone know where I can get some (hopefully) almost original grill cloth? Even though the originals are, (for their age), in pretty good shape, I would like to replace both of them. Oh, and also the paper gaskets used to seal the drivers.
Originally Posted by HCSGuy
I bought some grill cloth from a company called Speakerworks.com several years ago.
It is a very close match to the original grill cloth on my L100T speakers. It was quite inexpensive (I think I paid less than $10 for enough fabric to do both grills).
I have a theory, one of your drivers is not original... just a theory...
Well why not it's just one more pair...
4340's and 250ti's what an odd pair...
Yes, I agree, someone must have replaced the original with a replacement. the question is, WHY didn't they have the original repaired? I am sure the replacement must have cost a lot more than having the original repaired.
Reminds me of my pair of L65's. In the flush of finding a pair of them for $40, I didn't look at them closely. When I got them home, I realized that the woofers were no-name cheapo's. Guess who went on Ebay?
Some folks don't know there is a proper solution for bad surrounds.
C'mon, we've seen a pair of JBLs where someone installed Cerwin Vega woofers to a JBL system ...
or Tandy (Radio Shack) parts!
Thank goodness your guy put the right driver in!
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could have been a warranty replacement...
I certainly wouldn't sweat it... it's the right part.
They could have put any old 12" driver in, and most wouldn't have noticed.
When I pointed out to the guy selling them that the surround was shot on one woofer, he said "ok, I'll let you have the pair for $15" (Instead of $20) Bargains are out there, just have to be in the right place at the right time.
I gladly paid 100 knowing mine needed surrounds and one woofer cone was busted.
Turned out they also need one tweeter but I am still happy to have gotten them.
They are an excellent speaker. Mine look just like yours.
Hope you enjoy them!
BTW, your "Veneer" looks to be in really good shape - keep them out of the sun as the T3's fade easily, and we haven't found a solution yet for the Bikini tan - faded everywhere except behind the grill. Search the site for Reconstituted Veneer and you'll get a little more info. You did very well - T3's with that little fading are very rare, and a component 2214 is rarer still, though probably not that valuable.
Enjoy!
Maybe you haven't, but most of us have!
Here, try this.
". . . as you have no doubt noticed, no one told the 4345 that it can't work correctly so it does anyway."—Greg Timbers
Go naked!
Thanks guys, I appreciate the comments, and I promise to keep the speakers out of the sun! Now, I need to get the surrounds. (Even though I only need one, I bet I have to buy two.) I live somewhat close to OC Speaker, are they to be trusted?
Mostly yes, and sometimes no. I have sent several drivers down to them. Good turn around, fair prices but once...once.... I got peeved that they installed the surrounds on the front edge of the JBL woofer cone rather than the rear. No I did not issue instructions that this was my preference. Assumption mother of all you know what. Heard out my complaint but then it was too late. Reason stated was that they could not be installed on the rear because removing the prior material would damage the cone. Never know.
I would first put Upland Loudspeaker Service top of my list for your area. Look up Edgewound on this site. He understands without explaining.
David F
San Jose
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