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    Quote Originally Posted by pyonc View Post
    Ooops! Thanks so much for correcting me! I just did so.
    So how did it sound the other way? Like a 4333 with a bad horn?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWCCA View Post
    So how did it sound the other way? Like a 4333 with a bad horn?
    Yes, the sound is louder and clearer.
    With JBL M552, I think I get a little louder sound, compared with Ashly, though.
    I'm not sure which is the better one at this point, though Ashly produces a sharper and more even sound on both speakers to my ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyonc View Post
    With JBL M552, I think I get a little louder sound, compared with Ashly, though.
    That shouldn't make any difference if you have enough gain to make them both the same level. Assuming you're set at unity gain on the Ashly, just turn up the volume control on your pre-amp!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWCCA View Post
    That shouldn't make any difference if you have enough gain to make them both the same level. Assuming you're set at unity gain on the Ashly, just turn up the volume control on your pre-amp!
    Got it! By the way, do you have any reason why you set Response volume at 6db in your Ashly? Is it the normal setting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyonc View Post
    Got it! By the way, do you have any reason why you set Response volume at 6db in your Ashly? Is it the normal setting?
    Its not "Response Volume" - its setting how the low pass and high pass filters interact. How sharp the slopes/cutoff where they cross.

    Got mine set at 6db slope as well ... (see blurry pix)
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjames View Post
    Its not "Response Volume" - its setting how the low pass and high pass filters interact. How sharp the slopes/cutoff where they cross.

    Got mine set at 6db slope as well ... (see blurry pix)
    Let me set the same like you. Thanks!

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    The Ashly manual linked to in this thread is very helpful and descriptive:

    5.4 Response
    This control, found adjacent to the crossover fre-
    quency control, adjusts the damping of the filter affecting
    the response shape of the filters at the crossover point (see
    drawing). The dial calibrations refer to the amount of at-
    tenuation effected by the filter at the crossover frequency,
    i.e., a setting of 3dB means that the filter’s high-pass and
    low-pass outputs are each “rolled off 3dB at the crossover
    point”. This describes Butterworth filter response, or a
    gentle 3dB peak at the crossover point when the two filter
    output signals overlap. To obtain a flat signal, or
    “Linkowitz-Riley” response through the crossover region,
    set the Response control to “6”. This attenuates each out-
    put of the filter by 6dB at the crossover point (two identi-
    cal signals added together yield a +6dB increase). To ob-
    tain a notch at the crossover point, turn down the response
    control past “6” to best suit your needs.
    at unity and controlling system levels either prior to the
    crossover or at the output level controls.
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    connecting an ashly

    Sorry, I don't want to hijack this thread, but I have a question on connecting the Ashly XR1001 and I thought someone on this thread would know.

    If your processor as well as your amps have RCA connectors, what is the preferred way to connect to the XR1001?
    A. Use a RCA to 1/4" TRS unbalanced connector (Tip and sleeve). adapter cable
    B. Use a RCA to 1/4" TRS balanced connector (Tip,Ring, and Sleeve) adapter cable.
    C. Use a RCA to XR connector adapter cable.

    My first thought is that it is A, because everything would be unbalanced then. However, there is a note in the manual that I don't quite understand. It says:
    " If you must use unbalanced connectors, the negative lead of the connector should be tied to the ground lead. Using unbalanced connections could result in chasis ground-loop noise. Alternating the signal/chasis ground relationship in equipment connected to your MQX unit may eliminate the noise."

    Can some explain this to me and advise on the preferred hookup method if the processor and amps are RCA connectors.
    Thanks,
    Brett

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    any update after a bit more listening?

    Pyonc,

    Do you have any more update on this setup after a bit more listening and adjusting? I'm curious to your thoughts. Are you happy with it?

    Also, if anyone has the answer to my hookup question, it would be appreciated.

    Brett

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    Quote Originally Posted by brett_s View Post
    Also, if anyone has the answer to my hookup question, it would be appreciated.
    I'm essentially using your option A, though I was able to pick up some very nice cables terminated at one end in RCA and the other in 1/4" plugs for pre-amp-to-Ashly—and my amps have 1/4" jacks so that was a no-brainer.
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    JBL M552 over Ashly XR1001

    Hi, all,

    Thanks for all your great input and kind responses.
    For the past couple of weeks, I've A/B'd JBL 552 and Ashly XR1001, with the setting of various gain controls marked at their closest levels. Outcome? With 4343s, I hear crisper, louder and more real live-like from JBL M552, contrary to the dominent opinion in this forum that Ashly beats M552. The CDs and LPs I played to check them were all jazz music. Maybe it all depends on personal preferences, but as of now, I want to give higher marks to M552. Just my little thought on this thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyonc View Post
    With 4343s, I hear crisper, louder and more real live-like from JBL M552, contrary to the dominent opinion in this forum that Ashly beats M552.
    I'm not sure it's that black-and-white. I think Scotty did a very nice job discussing the good and bad of the M552 here: http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...l=1#post203401
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWCCA View Post
    I'm not sure it's that black-and-white. I think Scotty did a very nice job discussing the good and bad of the M552 here: http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...l=1#post203401
    Absolutely agree with you! It's just my personal taste.
    I think I have to try Urei 525 as it has 18db/octave crossover.
    Thanks for the info on Scotty's thread.

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