Subs for HiFi Use - Pair of 2245H vs Pair of Sub1500

[dkalsi]

By Tuesday next week, I should have a brand new pair of JBL Sub 1500 - (I have my fingers crossed for the spider detachment issues). I also have a pair of freshly reconed 2245H.

Currently my JBL 4345 Clones are in a relatively small room (13'x20'x8') - but I will be moving them into our living room this Winter (16' x 24' x 12' and open to the rest of the house on one side). For a room that large/open, I was thinking adding subs may be necessary. I really don't care for the "boom-boom-boom" - but I absoluelty love/need the "presense" of effortless/musical bass. Again, I don't like it too loud and I am by no means a bass freak, but I feel a sub can really enhance "full-range" sound effect.

I wanted to get the opinion of fellow forum members to see which of the two subs (Sub 1500 vs 2245H) would be a better option. I love the fact that I could get away with a smaller cabinet using the Sub1500 - but if the 2245H is more "HiFi" (for lack of a better word), then I will consider using the 2245H.

The are going to used strictly for music and will be used in pairs.

Current System:

Pre-Amp: Herron VSP-1
Amp (High+Mid): Plinius SA-100 MKIII
Amp (Bass): McIntosch 7270
Crossover: Marchand XM-9
Speakers: JBL 4345 Clones (with 4355 equivalent crossovers w/ JBL2441+2397 on top)

[rusty jefferson]

I recently switched from a pair of B-380 subs (2235h) to a pair of 2245h subs in 8 cubic foot cabinets. It would be difficult to describe how much better the 18" subs sound, at all volume levels.

Haven't used the sub 1500, so I can't offer anything there.

[dkalsi]

I recently switched from a pair of B-380 subs (2235h) to a pair of 2245h subs in 8 cubic foot cabinets. It would be difficult to describe how much better the 18" subs sound, at all volume levels.

Haven't used the sub 1500, so I can't offer anything there.

Thanks Rusty. I must come check out your subs one day. Just have big exam on Dec 4th and I should be free thereafter - hopefully at a time that is most conveninent for you, maybe I can stop by.

BTW - did some posts above get deleted? I thought Giskard and POS commented.

[dkalsi]

It depends... in my opinion if you want to integrate into a four-way like the 4345, then I agree... the 2245 is really hard to beat. However for true sub duty, the Sub1500s in small boxes with a little DSP help will give the 2245 a run for the money and do it in 1/4 the space. I've posted this before, but you may have missed it while you were tending to other interests... you might consider putting a Velodyne SMS-1 in front of your Sub1500s.

Widget .

Found the above from one of the many JBL Sub 1500 threads. Very relevant to my situation. As mentioned in my first post - the subs will be used for true sub duty, but not not HT sub duty (which typically has tons of LFE).

[JeffW]

BTW - did some posts above get deleted? I thought Giskard and POS commented.

If all the posts that were made on this site actually stayed on this site, there wouldn't be enough server space to handle it.

Two words: Screen shot. If somebody posts something of interest, snap a screen shot. Chances are very good it'll be gone next time you look for it.

Take this post, for example.

[dkalsi]

If all the posts that were made on this site actually stayed on this site, there wouldn't be enough server space to handle it.

Two words: Screen shot. If somebody posts something of interest, snap a screen shot. Chances are very good it'll be gone next time you look for it.

Take this post, for example.

Haha....Thanks Jeff. I will keep that in mind

[Chas]

I have been running my 4345's with a pair of SUB1500's (triamped) in Parts Express 3 cuft boxes for some years. I am crossing them at 40 HZ 24 dB/octave.

In conjunction with other changes, such as all new capacitors and a TAD Be HF driver in the 4345's, I think the set-up is nothing short of stunning at any reasonable level of volume.

I think you will enjoy either, although the 1500's are more compact.