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    Quote Originally Posted by shaansloan View Post
    Jeff what was your opinion of the Carver 1.5t?
    I liked it fine, but after fooling with the Crowns, I just felt that they had a sound that suited my rig better.

    And were you using the Marantz as a pre for that? Shaan
    Yes, for a while. I had the 1.5T before I got the Marantz, and used it for some time after. Before, it was just the amp and the APT Holman preamp.

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    All Yamaha

    Bridged M-80's

    Bridged PC2002M's

    Bridged PC4002M's

    Currently a Single PC2002M while some get revamped, sold, etc.

    Considering full active 4-way XO using mix of

    M-4 ?
    M-2 ?
    PC2002M
    another PC2002M
    PC5002M

    Or maybe just the single PC5002M, it's such a brute.

    The PC4002M is powerful and fast, but the fans are a tad annoying at low volumes if it heats up enough in a warm room. In a an A/C cooled room, I doubt they would ever kick on.

    What can I say, Yamaha nut through and through.
    Or maybe just the PC5002M by itself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    All Yamaha

    Bridged M-80's

    Bridged PC2002M's

    Bridged PC4002M's

    Currently a Single PC2002M while some get revamped, sold, etc.

    Considering full active 4-way XO using mix of

    M-4 ?
    M-2 ?
    PC2002M
    another PC2002M
    PC5002M

    Or maybe just the single PC5002M, it's such a brute.

    The PC4002M is powerful and fast, but the fans are a tad annoying at low volumes if it heats up enough in a warm room. In a an A/C cooled room, I doubt they would ever kick on.

    What can I say, Yamaha nut through and through.
    Or maybe just the PC5002M by itself.
    I saw the PC4002M you sold on AK. But I was too late for the party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cactus Bob View Post
    I saw the PC4002M you sold on AK. But I was too late for the party.
    Day late and a dollar short. That's the story of my life.


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    I recently upgraded my 20+ year old L00T's to Piano Finish 250Ti Classic Editions....my dream speakers since i dont know when. I run them off a close to 60Kg Plinius SA250 MKIV Power amplifier. It has 2x sets of speaker terminals so i am BiWiring my 250Ti's....absolutely awesome. They are definitely harder to drive than my L100Ts(250's have 6ohm impedance and lower sensitivity)but the soundstage they produce is astonishing. The SA250 is conservatively Rated @250W RMS/Ch 8ohms. In Class A mode it absolutely controls the 250Ti's with exceptional ease.

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    OOooooh... I lusted after that Kenwood amp in my youthful imagination.

    I do not use the standard enclosure but all other 250Ti components are to spec.

    I agree that an amp such as a good 100 watt amp with some headroom works well for the 250Ti. I am guessing (from your picture) your listening space is fairly large and open and this should have you looking at higher power. The thing about the 250Ti is that is teases you into creeping up the volume. It just eases along with each bump in output. Before you know you hitting heading up the power curve quickly.

    I thought 200 watts was sort of the threshold for power. Have used the Adcom 555II (200 watts) mentioned. Good with the bottem end. Used a B&K 442 Sonata (200 watts) that can pull current to dim lights. Good sound overall. Lately I have used an ATI 1502 (obsolete model with 150 watts that can be had for not very much) with great results. Surprising, really. Clear and very dynamic. Now I have two. That old SAE connection, perhaps. Pretty sure I would not push the output in my space as I would in yours, however, so 200 watts or more may need to be high on your checklist.

    Not sure what the budget is, whether you want to stick with vintage SS, etc.
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    "You can't give a 250 too much power."

    The unholy, menage-a-trois offspring of the L250, 250Ti, and PT800 that grumpy and I incubated into the PT250 has this power behind it:

    044Ti tweeters driven by first Hafler SR2300 (300W/ch)
    904Ti mids driven by second Hafler SR2300 (300W/ch)
    908Ti midbass driven by third Hafler SR2300 (300W/ch)
    LE14H-1 woofers driven by Hafler SR2600 (600W/ch)

    Each PT250 is managed by a four way electronic speaker management system (BSS 366T Omnidrive), and I can testify that my ears give out before the amps and the drivers break a sweat.

    My office pair of L250s is bi-amped by a pair of Soundcraftmsen S400 amps being fed through a Soundcraftsmen AE-2000 thing-a-majig and that combo seems to have no upper limit as well.
    Out.

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    250ti biamped bottom carver a-500x, top marantz pm14. Impressive sound.

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    My 250ti speakers are powered by a Parasound HCA-3500 stereo amp, 350 watts per channel into 8 ohms. Plenty of power for musical peaks and very solid, tight bass. I actually tried a McIntosh MC-275 tube amp on the 250ti just for kicks and I was surprised how well that combo worked-- its only missing some headroom for peaks and a little definition in the bass compared with the Parasound. In my smallish (13 x 22 x 9) room, I could get by with the Mac but I prefer the Parasound overall, especially for control of the woofers. BTW, my original 250ti are not bi-amp ready without crossover surgery.

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    The high end on mine are now powered by a McIntosh 275, with the big Yamaha continuing to fill out the bottom octaves. It amazes me that as I continue to move up the electronics chain, the 250ti never lets me down. I can hear the changes clearly and I am left to wonder " will I ever reach a point that the speakers themselves are holding the system back"?

    Perhaps, but I will never part with them....

    Jblnut

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    Tried a pair of k1's for a while and they were ok. After that used a pair of mono dc300's that was better. My favorite sounding setup turned out to be the cheapest , a good old hk citation 16. O I forgot there was.also a pair of urei 6290's I.used for one afternoon, they have loud fans, they are back in the.shop where they belong.
    Just my 2 cents...
    Well why not it's just one more pair...
    4340's and 250ti's what an odd pair...

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    I use Crown Studio Reference for my 250ti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jblnut View Post
    It amazes me that as I continue to move up the electronics chain, the 250ti never lets me down. I can hear the changes clearly and I am left to wonder " will I ever reach a point that the speakers themselves are holding the system back"?
    Currently I am powering my Everest II clones off an iPod dock and they sound fantastic. It's nice to know that there is nowhere to go but up without any end in sight.

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    FWIW,

    I'm back to a pair of bridged PC2002M @700WPC each. In my setup, these have worked out the best.

    Also running a bridged PC2002M on my B460.

    The PC5002M, while it sounds glorious, just didn't cut it with only 500WPC stereo for high volume listening.

    Maybe someday I will get the "parts" PC5002M running and have a pair to run bridged, but I would have to run a line from the panel on the other side of the house to power them.


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    Powering 250Ti's

    For my 250Ti's I ran a pair of McIntosh MC501's
    my 250Ti's are on vacation right now however as I'm using the K2 S5800's instead!
    K2S5800,Proj Array1000,880,1500,SynthesisTWO,250Ti,240Ti,120Ti& 18Ti,S38,Libra,Ti2K,Dorian,L36,88,99,100,300,Jubal ,Apollo,4425

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