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    Question What is Everyone Using to Power Their L250's / 250ti's

    I recently aquired a pair of 250ti's and I'm curious as to what everyone else is using. I have a Spec 1 preamp & a Spec 2 amp (250 wpc). The amp needs a rebuild but not sure at this point weather I should invest money into this set up or purchase something else. For the time being I am using a KW Model 600 Integrated Amp (130 wpc) and I am relatively pleased with this set-up. All recommendations are welcome, Thanks, Bob

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    I have been using a 375wpc BGW amp , but have developed a hum somewhere in the system , so have been pushing the 250Ti's with a 85wpc Denon receiver until I can dig into the wire nest and resolve hum ....

    Both the big power and smaller power sources sound nice..the speakers dont seem to be really picky. had them on an Adcom GFA-555 (200wpc) for a while and it worked well too.
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    350W Carver or 400W Sunfire depending on the system. They do really like high power even at lower volumes. But it's when you push them that the difference becomes apparent.

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    Parasound 5250 - Good
    DBX BX3MkII - better in some ways (Bass control), lesser in others (grittier highs).
    Onkyo M-508 - Pitiful (no bass control, ran out of power really quick).

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    Thanks for your input guys and keep them coming. These 250ti's sound so much better then my 240ti's. I was really surprised by how much better they would sound with the same amp and thought the 250ti's would be starving for power but it's not the case. But I know if I want a lot more volume my amp will run out quickly. These also seem more placement friendly and seems like they'll sound great wherever you put them. All in all I'm thrilled with these and never imagined they would sound this good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cactus Bob View Post
    seems like they'll sound great wherever you put them. All in all I'm thrilled with these and never imagined they would sound this good.
    Welcome to the club .....I bought mine just before the general sale price dropped abt 25% , but no matter , I got the teak that I wanted and they were in vgood shape ...be careful moving them around as the veneer around the bottom sides will splinter and come off when brushed against carpet.....better replacement feet are recommended.

    wouldnt be a bad idea to check for extra 044Ti's , as insurance ...just saw one go on eBay for $50
    ONE JBL L-044Ti high frequency tweeter driver (black).

    Item condition:--
    Ended:Sep 05, 201006:18:07 PDT

    Sold For:US $50.00


    It may seem silly, but they can benefit from a sub added into the mix.

    There lots of threads around here abt the care and feeding of these beauties.

    do you have pics yet ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by SEAWOLF97 View Post
    Welcome to the club .....I bought mine just before the general sale price dropped abt 25% , but no matter , I got the teak that I wanted and they were in vgood shape ...be careful moving them around as the veneer around the bottom sides will splinter and come off when brushed against carpet.....better replacement feet are recommended.
    Hi Seawolf97!! Before they came off the back of my pick up I replaced the feet with new nail on sliders like I used on the 240ti's. I get them from Home Depot and they work well. Mine are on tile so I can move them easily around the room. The price dropped due to the recession? With my 240's I always have a spare driver to borrow. The pictures are a little blurry. These were taken before I cleaned & waxed them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cactus Bob View Post
    Hi Seawolf97!! The price dropped due to the recession?
    yes, I paid $2k and now you can get a nice pair in the $1500 range....

    are yours upgraded to Ti ???? as they look like L250 cabinets, and if so ...the 044Ti is not the correct replacement driver.

    250Ti's have 6 grommet holes on the face for the grills to set in and they stand out a little more from the drivers, where L250's do not have the 6 holes and grills attach with velcro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SEAWOLF97 View Post
    yes, I paid $2k and now you can get a nice pair in the $1500 range....

    are yours upgraded to Ti ???? as they look like L250 cabinets, and if so ...the 044Ti is not the correct replacement driver.

    250Ti's have 6 grommet holes on the face for the grills to set in and they stand out a little more from the drivers, where L250's do not have the 6 holes and grills attach with velcro.
    This is the pair I bought. It was posted on this forum. They are L250's converted to Ti's.

    See post #7

    http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...2-L250-on-eBay

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    Akai boom box from Target!

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    I am powering my 250TI's with two sets of amps. The LE14H-1's xover board is powered by a Yamaha PC2002M (260w). The upper drivers's xover is powered by a pair of Dynaco Mark III monos (with Curcio mods). I do have the special "Giskard" bi-amp capable xovers which allows this configuration. The combination of big transistor power for the lows and smooth/sweet tube power on top is just about perfect for me. There may be one single amp out there that can deliver the power I want down low and the smoothness I need up high, but I haven't heard it, I can't afford it, or both.

    I've tried the following before I got the special xovers:

    Carver TFM6-cb (65w) - underpowered and grainy
    Carver PM-150 - more power but even grainier
    Yamaha PC2002M - great until the volume goes up, then a bit too bright
    Yamah PC4002M - OMG the bass, but similarly bright
    Dynaco ST70 - this got me on the tube kick - amazing mids and highs, but muddy/weak bass


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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffW View Post
    Akai boom box from Target!
    That's what I'm using with my C40 Harkness


    Quote Originally Posted by jblnut View Post
    I am powering my 250TI's with two sets of amps. The LE14H-1's xover board is powered by a Yamaha PC2002M (260w). The upper drivers's xover is powered by a pair of Dynaco Mark III monos (with Curcio mods). I do have the special "Giskard" bi-amp capable xovers which allows this configuration. The combination of big transistor power for the lows and smooth/sweet tube power on top is just about perfect for me. There may be one single amp out there that can deliver the power I want down low and the smoothness I need up high, but I haven't heard it, I can't afford it, or both.

    I've tried the following before I got the special xovers:

    Carver TFM6-cb (65w) - underpowered and grainy
    Carver PM-150 - more power but even grainier
    Yamaha PC2002M - great until the volume goes up, then a bit too bright
    Yamah PC4002M - OMG the bass, but similarly bright
    Dynaco ST70 - this got me on the tube kick - amazing mids and highs, but muddy/weak bass


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    That sounds like an awesome set-up. I can see tubes on top. I'm going to have to find an easier solution though. I think I could live with a PC2002M.

    Thanks for you input. You definitely have the experience with these.

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    You could easily live with a PC2002M - I did for several years. It's fantasically accurate, reliable as hell and I just love those big meters . It's only when you want to crank it that you might wish for a less lively high-end. But who knows - depending on your other equipment, room and music you may find it sounds great.

    That's the fun of this hobby - there is no "right" answer or "perfect" system. It always about what sounds good to you, in your room, with your music. There's also WAF and budget issues to consider too...

    You've got the 250ti's - now the fun begins as you realize just how transparent they are and how you can really hear component changes. Enjoy !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cactus Bob View Post
    That's what I'm using with my C40 Harkness

    I first ran a G-9700 Sansui, then a Carver M1.5T, then a Crown PS-400, then a pair of Crown PS-200s, and every now and then something else. A Marantz SR5003, that's when I went with the pair of PS-200s on the pre-outs.

    I use an APT Holman pre amp's 2nd set of inputs to switch between the Marantz's LR surround pre-outs and the CD player or TT, let the Marantz's amp handle the other speakers except front LR. The BR/DVD/CD player has 7.1 outs as well as 2Ch stereo outs that supposedly have better DACs or something, so I run those to the 1st set of APT inputs.

    Sounds complicated, but it really works great for swapping back and forth without screwing with onscreen menus and stuff. Just a twist of a selector knob to jam on tunes with the TV on.

    ETA: a pair of Crown PS-200s = Akai boom box 'round these parts ;-) , although some would give the advantage to the Akai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffW View Post
    I first ran a G-9700 Sansui, then a Carver M1.5T, then a Crown PS-400, then a pair of Crown PS-200s, and every now and then something else. A Marantz SR5003, that's when I went with the pair of PS-200s on the pre-outs.

    ETA: a pair of Crown PS-200s = Akai boom box 'round these parts ;-) , although some would give the advantage to the Akai.
    Jeff what was your opinion of the Carver 1.5t? And were you using the Marantz as a pre for that? Shaan
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