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    JBL VORR system

    "voice of rock & roll"

    If you had to construct a system for stereo using a pair of 2,3,or4 way speakers , jbl designed components , what would those components be ?

    I'll make it more simple by stating that the system would be used mainly for
    thried and true rock & roll standbys like ...

    A Les Paul into a marshall stack
    A "big" drum kit (neal peart)
    A fender P bass thru an ampeg SVT
    A male vocalist with a raspy voice

    Here's what I'm thinkin' le14, le10, le5 ,066 enclosure made to suit , ported to suit ,crossed over etc . Then again Gordon's BIG L100's sounded enticing , the gentle reader will recall that system as one using L100 components in a big box (2.6? cubes 8.75? length 4" port mirrored mid/tweets) .

    I'd just like to know what your starting line up would be for a clean sheet design ,driver wise.

    It seems like If a person narrowed it down this far that it may be more workable . Have no fear in responding I am not dead set on any specific configuration , THAT'S WHY I ASKED

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    Currently:

    LE14H-3 in 2 cuft. tuned to 30 Hz,
    2426H on $9.90 PT-F95 waveguide,
    Zilch's biased AM34 crossover.

    HERE, I'll turn 'em up for ya ...

    [NASTY!! ]
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    I'm listening

    I'm gonna search on that stuff !

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    I like the concept ! It's simple , no bs , and I would imagine a fair amount of output !

    I've only owned one set of speakers similar to those ,they were (are) magnavox's ,DON'T TELL ANYBODY ! 8" woof 90ox40o horn .

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe
    I've only owned one set of speakers similar to those ,they were (are) magnavox's ,DON'T TELL ANYBODY ! 8" woof 90ox40o horn .
    You kinda know what these are about, then.

    I HAVE tried a few different combinations:

    http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/s...2383#post92383

    [Heh, heh....]

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    well they were similar only in broad outline ! I'm sure they don't sound the same ... The magnavoxes sound ...neutral , I guess (they are used in the garage 1/2 the time all I hear is the air compressor ) . These particular speakers don't sound horny.

    I can see by your link that you are wise in all things two way ! Or if not it's not for lack of trying

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    I'm not sure what a Marshall stack sounds like with a Les Paul but I vote for 4430s with minimum 400 watts a side. Zilch is a two-way specialist.
    There are two theories to arguing with women, but...neither has worked.

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    since we have a guitar slinger on here maybe I'll list some reference tunes for tone as is common practice for ampheads , like me.

    This list is a little different though these are the songs I would like to reproduce , with a stereo , as effectively as reasonably possible .

    led zep "when the levee breaks"
    van halen "you really got me " "baluchitherium"
    deep purple " smoke on the water " OF COURSE ! "sweet child in time"
    motorhead " we are the road crew " "orgasmatron"
    mountain "mississippi queen"
    Jimi " voodoo child " " peace in mississipi"

    Those tunes are all good "stereo checkers " ! I've been usin' em for years !

    Since we have gone on a 2 way slant here maybe you boys could point up the possible merits/drawbacks of a UREI type design with a single altec duplex ? I know I said jbl in the beginning but I really meant lansing products generally.

    So tell me the subjective qualities of those 2 way 4430 like systems , if you please.

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    I have a Urei 811c clone as my center channel. It's a very nice sounding speaker however it needs a sub. Most of the Urei's will even some with the helper woofers.

    Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe
    So tell me the subjective qualities of those 2 way 4430 like systems , if you please.
    There is only one reason why I have 4430s instead of 43xxs. When I went speaker shopping in the late 80's I only had $2000 to spend.
    There are two theories to arguing with women, but...neither has worked.

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    "I have a Urei 811c clone as my center channel. It's a very nice sounding speaker however it needs a sub. Most of the Urei's will even some with the helper woofers.

    Rob"

    There is only one reason why I have 4430s instead of 43xxs. When I went speaker shopping in the late 80's I only had $2000 to spend.

    I see buy these last two posts that perhaps the urei's will not do the whole job alone and that the 4430 is close to the pinnacle of 2 way speaker development , or we'll just say that to keep from dragging on interminably , and because I'm convinced !

    Now maybe the 3 way believers will pitch in with their favorite ?


    Sorry for the bold type ! Too many features on this forum !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamilton
    Zilch is a two-way specialist.
    While I appreciate your enthusiasm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giskard
    While I appreciate your enthusiasm...
    Giskard, you know I'm just another low-life construction worker, thus, I think all you guys are experts. So.......I have an honest question :

    For my budget he designed the LE14A, 2426/2342, nL200t3 H-T cabinets...would you think that there is something inferior about them? Zilch was a tremendous help to me, more than anyone will know.
    There are two theories to arguing with women, but...neither has worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamilton
    For my budget he designed the LE14A, 2426/2342, nL200t3 H-T cabinets
    Whatever works. This is DYI. Anything goes. You build it and post pictures, we'll look at them.

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    For my budget he designed the LE14A, 2426/2342, nL200t3 H-T cabinets...would you think that there is something inferior about them? Zilch was a tremendous help to me, more than anyone will know.
    No. How do you like them??? After all you have an advantage, you have them!


    Rob

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