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    Do 8 and 16 Ohm Speakers "Sound" the Same?

    Assuming the same model and similar vintage, and that they are used with the correct crossover, with the exception of a small volume difference, do the 8 and 16 ohm speakers sound the same (i.e., same tonality and frequency curves).

    I'm thinking of mixing 8 and 16 ohm speakers (specifically, LE-14Cs) for front and rear surrounds if they would have the same sound. Please don't mention reconing to change impedience as LE-14As are $443 and LE-14Hs are $548 EACH to recone. I don't even know that they can do the 14Cs. Refoams, are no problem though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddalin
    Assuming the same model and similar vintage, and that they are used with the correct crossover, with the exception of a small volume difference, do the 8 and 16 ohm speakers sound the same (i.e., same tonality and frequency curves).
    - I suspect the two impedance versions are actually the same impedance voice coil . JBL did change their impedance labelling convention/method in the early 1960s.

    - I'd recommend measuring the DC impedance of those le14C drivers you have.
    ( If you don't have a DVM/Digital Volt Meter, then you should buy a cheap one )

    - You should find that your le14 ( so called ) 8 ohm & 16 ohm voice coils have the same DCR (DC Resistance ).

    Service Info from 1982 indicates ;
    - A healthy le14a voice coil measured 5.9 to 7.1 ohms ( dcr )
    - le14h = 5.7 to 6.9 ohms
    - le14c = 6.7 to 8.3 ohms .

    Either side of those ranges and the coil is suspect .

    Service Info from 1976 indicates ;
    - A healthy le14a voice coil measured 5.7 to 6.9 ohms ( dcr )
    - ( no le14h yet existed )
    - the older, le14c = 4.6 to 5.4 ohms .

    Either side of those ranges and the coil is suspect or not original or of a different vintage .

    - Yes, the two impedance versions will sound the same . And definately close enough if the coils are actually different vintage .

    I'm thinking of mixing 8 and 16 ohm speakers (specifically, LE-14Cs) for front and rear surrounds if they would have the same sound. Please don't mention reconing to change impedience as LE-14As are $443 and LE-14Hs are $548 EACH to recone. I don't even know that they can do the 14Cs. Refoams, are no problem though.
    - Well, you must not be North America if you are being quoted prices like that .
    - A brand new le14h-3 purchased direct from Harman US is around $ $280. ( for a whole speaker, not just the recone ). Bargooon !

    - If your le14Cs are working fine I would never think of reconing them. Plus I think that kit was discontinued .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl K
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    - Well, you must not be North America if you are being quoted prices like that .
    - A brand new le14h-3 purchased direct from Harman US is around $ $280. ( for a whole speaker, not just the recone ). Bargooon !

    - If your le14Cs are working fine I would never think of reconing them. Plus I think that kit was discontinued .
    Thanks.

    Prices are from Orange County Speaker in So. Cal.

    http://www.speakerrepair.com/ocsrepairprice.html

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    Prices are from Orange County Speaker in So. Cal.
    D'OH


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    They're apparently having difficulty gettin' kits.

    [Or think they have the last of 'em.... ]

    The answer to the basic question is: Yes, they sound the same, and in many vintage JBL cases, in fact ARE the same....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl K
    - I'd recommend measuring the DC impedance of those le14C drivers you have.
    Bingo.

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