The west coast sound vs the east coast sound.
For many years there was a debate which is more accurate and which is more listenable the west coast sound or the east coast sound.
The west coast sound was thought to have more presence, the east coast sound much less presence. Many articles were written supporting one vs the other.Most JBL models we've heard seem to exaggerate the upper midrange frequencies " A quote from Consumers Digest 1974. What do you think of that Quote ? The exaggeration of the upper midrange was very popular on the west coast. ie, the west coast sound.The problems that audio engineers was facing was the accurate reproduction of sound. Speaker manufactures faced a very difficult task , how to produce a speaker without adding color.West coast in general meaning sound with more presence , more focus on the mid range.Sure, JBLs throughout the company's history have claimed to have accurate reproduction, and some were designed specifically to have the "more presence" and "an exaggeration in the upper midrange" that you described previously. Wouldn't having NO exaggeration in any particular frequency range be a step towards accuracy? It's really a very simple concept...JBL recognized the desire for some folks to have a hyped West Coast sound, and continued production of the L100s (and speakers like it) for many years, but soon after the 1974 review you quoted, JBL started putting out speakers that were evolving to a flatter, more full-frequency response (ie; L110s, 4313s, 4412As, etc.).
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The descriptive terms at the crux of the fake issue here (west-coast and east-coast sound) are antediluvian, out of date, behind the times, and passé. Such differences no longer exist. And as for JBL, they only ever did exist in one speaker type; the 4310/L100 range and other related models of that period. Not since those, and not now. Get over it.
Best I can tell we've been pretty much the same country since the Jeffersonian land-grab now referred to as the Louisiana Purchase and the melting pot that is America has ecumenicalized our culture—and our perception of sound—since that day. Change and growth have occurred slowly but inexorably. We're all one big happy family now except, apparently, here on this list!
But, as one who was born and grew-up in St. Louis and moved from there when I was 22-year-old, I have to say it's not unusual for people in St. Louis to live in a time-warp where cultural change is avoided and disregarded, if not denied. And I challenge anyone to prove that statement wrong using the behavior exhibited on this forum over the past week or so as evidence!
". . . as you have no doubt noticed, no one told the 4345 that it can't work correctly so it does anyway."—Greg Timbers
Two JBL collide
Rival nations
It's a primitive clash
Venting years of frustrations
Bravely we hope
Against all hope
There is so much at stake
Seems our freedom's up
Against the ropes
Does the crowd understand?
Is it East versus West
Or JBL against JBL
Can anyone stand it any-more
Survivor - Burning heart (Rocky IV) HQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL3lJfpenAc
BMW,, And your now 23 ???
Take it easy Maron, it wasn't at you that the comment was aimed—unless you're really the sock-puppet "Wolfshead", too...
I left Saint Lousy back when JBL was earning their "west-coast" moniker. As we like to say, "some of my best friends" had L100s. I wasn't impressed by them then, either.
But the least I can do is to provide grammatical assistance, even if you won't disclose your St. Louis educational institution. At CDS we learned how to properly form contractions in our first year:
"You are" contracts to "you're".
You're sure to figure it out one of these days if you continue to watch your Ps and Qs. Always happy to be helpful.
". . . as you have no doubt noticed, no one told the 4345 that it can't work correctly so it does anyway."—Greg Timbers
A forum is an exchange of ideas and opinions , a discussion between forum
members. Questions are asked , opinions expressed , much is learned.the forum is useful.
Stupid , I never indicated anyone is stupid , never attacked anyone.
What I was interested in was others opinion and ideas on the topics raised. It appears you are more inerested in discussing me than the topic.
Nobody knows everything we can all learn !
I think "repoducation" is one of the more interesting terms I've ever rolled my eyes over.
Please, everyone, stop this wanton West Coast repoducation!
Out.
It appears your knowledge of JBL's is very limited especially the early years.
The earlier JBL pre-1970's also were midrange heavy. The Hartsfields for example when played one must turn down the midrange.
High Fidelity magazines review of a hartsfield in 1958 suggested lowering the midrange controls on the Hartsfield , that was before the 075 was added and before stereo was common , a fact which killed the corner horns.
I will not attempt to defend St.Louis , and it's cultural behaviour , I will
say that The St.Louis Symphony is one of the great Symphonies in America, Powell Symphony is revered for it's fine accoustics throughout
American , The Muny Opera one of the first outdoor performing productions is world renown , for sport lovers only the new York Yankees has won more World Series than the St.Louis Cardinals.
Maybe you should have left St.Louis when you were much younger or
exposed to more while living there
That is what I’ve trying to explain to some kiddie on youtube that’s 29! and he kept insisting that 70mm was not a discrete six-track magnetic stripe that it was 35mm Dolby stereo mixed onto 70mm and that Dolby digital was a discrete format 5.1.
Where do these clowns come from? sigh LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmk6EqtmcRA
I pointed out in an earlier post that I had attended audio shows in Chicago,
and had visited an audio show in Los Angeles. Kansas City Missouri another example had one of the most successful JBL audio dealerships in the midwest.
Several of my friends and I were audio hobbist we owned a variety of audio
speakers , amps etc. We didn't all agree but we had fun.
Times have changed as stated earlier , audio has taken a backseat to video and computers. The audio shows are no more , even the McIntosh
amp clinics or a thing of the pass.
I posed a very simple topic west coast vs east coast sound. Since audio
is no longer as popular as it was in the past , I was curious as to what the
opinions would be on this site regarding an old fun topic.
I assumed it appears incorrectly that members on this site loved discussing audio past and present.
Certainly there will be difference , my experience in audio dates back to the late 50's. But can't we agree to disagree ? It appears we can't
For that I am sad.
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