Utterly outstanding!
You know... now that JBL is going to be "Made In Anywhere But U.S.A." all this stuff is probably going to skyrocket in value... I'd imagine that most of it will get moved overseas to the Asian market rather rapidly since they are the only people left on the planet that hold "Made in U.S.A." dear.
JBL just sold out their last ace in the hole.
Heck, so did Crown for that matter...
I should clarify, the mid-bass and mid of the L7 have rubber surrounds, but yes, the 12" LF has foam, though I've not seen many/any sets that I can recall that stated they needed or had a refoam.Originally Posted by SEAWOLF97
which rubber surrounds are you referring to ?? My L7's have standard foam on the LF driver.
Am I reading this correctly ? L1
if you're saying you paid <100 for L7s that's a great deal less than "a little below market", these sell for >450 on ebay and CL much, much, much more often than they sell for <450??. if you're saying they're slightly better than the L65, I can't help you there ;-) will just have to use statistics to compare the avg opinions of those who've heard both
L100= consumer version of 4311 (near field studio monitor)-- identical by design and performance, in fact the history section of this forum states the demise of the L100 in the late 70s came from consumers realizing the identical 4311 could be purchased at a fraction of the L100 markup---I'm sure someone will correct any slight errors I've made, the this is the basic gist
Performance Series 5.1/1990s L1.L5.L7/L100A
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IMHO the L7's sound much better than the L150's. Yes placement is an issue, but I actually have both side by side right now.
150's are scratch free, new foams. You can have them for $450.
OKAY...I got the L7 pair plus a PS100 sub for $125 ...figure the sub was worth 25
http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...ad.php?t=27291
Phil has picked up couple sets of L7's at approx $200.
have never heard L-65's...I compared them to L-166's.
The rap on L1
Wud guess same drivers, modified xover.....heck, my much appreciated 4410's shared nearly the same drivers as L80T , which very few people defend...they are different beasts.
Some kind of happiness is measured out in miles
You're forgetting that the 4311 and other "Control" monitors were voiced to mimic the popular Altec monitors of the time and were never intended to carry a "flat" response. Purpose-built and successful.The rap on L1
". . . as you have no doubt noticed, no one told the 4345 that it can't work correctly so it does anyway."—Greg Timbers
Someone's coming to pick my L150's up tomorrow and all can say is that the longer I owned them the more they grew on me; to the point that I kind of hate to see them go. They need a good amp with decent low end control or they can sound a little loose and wooly but when driven by good amplification they are pretty good and hold up pretty well alongside more modern systems
Mike
makes sense in that perspective....but by extrapolation...L100's mimicked Altec monitors ?
Some kind of happiness is measured out in miles
That would appear to be a sound deductive conclusion. I'm only repeating what I've read here: http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/s...10&postcount=6
". . . as you have no doubt noticed, no one told the 4345 that it can't work correctly so it does anyway."—Greg Timbers
From a guy named Don
http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/s...0%27s+monitors
For example, no one in their right mind would buy an L100 for use as a studio monitor. That is because the acoustically identical 4311 could be had for around two thirds of the cost of an L100. However, by end of the 70’s, many people were buying 4311’s for home use because of this price differential and this was partially responsible for the demise of the L100.
Performance Series 5.1/1990s L1.L5.L7/L100A
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I just purchased a pair of JBL L7 Loudspeakers and they are connected to my Onkyo Receiver TX-DS696.When I first played this combo they sounded really good without having the 12' woofer playing,however when I decided to change to heavy guage of speaker wire(16 guage) to try hooking a Adcom 545 for 12' woofer(which didn't work to well) I decided to unhook the Adcom and go with the previous set-up.When I play the system now there is static and distortion after a few minutes and sometimes 20-30 minutes after the CD is playing.I wonder do I need to hook up an amplifier and a pre-amp instead of a receiver to get the sound that I want without the distortion and static?
Check your wiring and your amps. It doesn't sound like the problem is with the speakers. Why not run the L7s with the terminals bridged with just the Onkyo? They love lots of power but will work with small power, too. Your Onkyo should be good for at least 100-watts per channel. Have you seen the L7 owners manual supplement that deals specifically with wiring, including bi-wiring, bi-amping, etc? http://www.manualslib.com/manual/284...L7.html#manual
". . . as you have no doubt noticed, no one told the 4345 that it can't work correctly so it does anyway."—Greg Timbers
Not in my universe!
...Am I reading this correctly ? L1
In response to the original question, I would go with the L150. I just don't like the sound of that tweeter in the L7, I find it fatiguing.
well now that I actually own 4311B's, my comments vs. L100's have a bit more experience behind them.
My L-100's are in Chicago with my son, but I remember them well. The 4311, despite having the same drivers, seems a bit more accurate (if turned upside down from how they were designed
My earlier comments v. 4410 vs, L80T still stand ..virtually same drivers..different sound.
Some kind of happiness is measured out in miles
Had a friend who had the L150's eons ago, and all SAE gear in front. We thought they sounded really good for their day. He had white-woofer monitors in the other room as well, 4311's I suppose. Don't think I've ever sat down for a listen to L7's, might have heard them in passing at an audio shop somewhere.
Seawolf - I usually don't have trouble with your terminology, but can we please stop referring to speakers as a "solution" around here? They're not a computer or piece of software! The audio curmudgeon in me is offended.En garde!
You guys do understand that the last post in this thread before yesterday was nearly six-years-old and yesterday's newbie was asking an L7 question pretty much unrelated to the thread content, right? I answered him anyway but now it seems we're dredging up the old stuff.
". . . as you have no doubt noticed, no one told the 4345 that it can't work correctly so it does anyway."—Greg Timbers
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