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    Array 1400 Clones

    I have been working these up over the last few months. It really the culmination of my other 2 threads for the SAMHF1 and Universal Bass Module threads. I have had these running in full passive mode for the last two days.

    For the driver set I have LE-14H-3 Aquaplased 2435 and 045Be drivers. The stock networks don't have enough attenuation. So I have added trim resistors I can bring outside the cabinets or just make a jumper bank like the L250Ti to give me adjustable attenuation. They are built up Charge Coupled but have not set-up the batteries yet until I have the crossovers installed in the SAM cabinets.

    Wow! They sound great even though I am still futzing around with them.

    Rob

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    SAM1HF Modules http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...-SAM1HF-Clones
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    You big tease!

    Looking good Rob!


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    THOSE DO LOOK GOOD!

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    Very nice...I wish I had the skill set to do something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob
    Wow! They sound great even though I am still futzing around with them.
    Great Work Rob.

    >< cheers

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    Very nice indeed!

    Where does one go to buy SAMHF1 modules if one wanted to? Best Buy doesn't carry them..

    I just don't see items like that for sale...

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    Exclamation What's that spell? What's that smell?

    It just seems so curious to me that neither JBL marketing types or one or more of their more knowledgable USA dealers are not involved with what, for the most part, is the JBL User Group & Fan Club......

    Maybe they could learn a few things from Klipsch....

    Am I missing something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmos View Post
    Where does one go to buy SAMHF1 modules if one wanted to?
    Ask Mr. Widget, he's a new Synthesis Dealer.

    We ordered up a bunch of these for DIY and several top echelon people at JBL had to get involved to actually get the product out the door.

    Then the outsourced shipping company packaged the first lot carelessly and they all got dinged up.

    Several sets ended up in Europe and Asia and a few sets remained here in North America.

    Quote Originally Posted by JoMoCo View Post
    Am I missing something?
    Nope, they are. They forgot their roots. Actually, I seriously doubt they give a rat's ass about their roots. It's all an International Conglomerate now. If there wasn't a Paragon sitting in the lobby they wouldn't know what one was. I'm sure at some point someone will walk through and say something like "Could you please get that old thing out of here? What the hell is it anyway?"

    At this point JBL will only sell the complete SAM1HF units which is probably best since they have a nice build and are warrantied for five years. They really do frown on selling pieces and parts since those pieces and parts are expressly for warranty replacement purposes and they only have a ninety day warranty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom1040 View Post
    Very nice...I wish I had the skill set to do something like that.
    Sometimes I think I'd like to do that, too, but then reality sets in. Why do I want to?

    I respect and admire what the DIY folks do around here, and I futz around a bit on my own, but when I want really great gear, I buy it. My goal is listening to the best gear I can get, and that's not going to come out of my efforts.

    Rob actually has a pretty good idea what he's doing, and he's willing to work hard and learn more. He enjoys it.

    I enjoy someone else making a great product for me.

    I certainly enjoyed building and tweaking my Synthesis® room (The Two Jims Theatre), but that played to skills I already had. I was confident that I had the right gear to make the work meaningful.

    I'm glad to stick with what I know and that I have Greg Timbers, Chris Neumann, et al, "working" for me on the equipment design.

    Now go listen to those amazing 1400 Arrays.
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    Exactly, TD. However, it would be nice to be able to retire (someday) and know how to do this stuff-just to know. I like to learn new things and this hobby is right up there.

    However, to your point, I, too, like to be able to purchase the finished product, albiet perhaps not that NEW finished product. There seems to be about an hour of free time a day (pushing it) to listen. The Array's are superb indeed. I think I will keep the S/2600 like you, however it seems a shame since I do not have a spot for them........

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    Hello T dome

    He enjoys it.
    Yes I do. It's a lot of fun to try to build these systems up.

    I have Greg Timbers, Chris Neumann, et al, "working" for me on the equipment design.
    Me too any of the DIY speakers I have built have been measured using their designs as a yardstick.

    Hello Tom

    Very nice...I wish I had the skill set to do something like that.
    Thank You

    Start small. Build a kit, start reading. As long, as your not all thumbs with power tools what's the worse that can happen?? There are plenty of inexpensive measurement and box programs that are available to get you started just look around. All you need for many are a computer with a full duplex sound card, basically a given, and a measurement microphone also easy to find.

    Here is the final build schematic. I have been playing them for a week and I am happy with the attenuation. I will still have the resistors accessible to change them down the line.

    Now go listen to those amazing 1400 Arrays.
    No kidding!

    Rob
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    Finally had a rainy day to get them finished. Still have the other but at least one is done. I just couldn't be happier with them.

    Rob
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robh3606 View Post
    Finally had a rainy day to get them finished. Still have the other but at least one is done. I just couldn't be happier with them.

    Rob
    Wow - they look gorgeous ... like the cart design too, unusual!
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    Very nice Robb!!

    Is that a cloth material on the front of the cab?
    Those should be just a joy to listen to!!

    BTW: I have that same vinyl tile in my kitchen.
    Always fun learning more.......

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    Nice, really nice. Well done.
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