I'll be working sound for the U's oldest a cappella group just a couple of blocks away (in a much nicer venue!). I'll step outside with my dB meter and see what Metallica measures across the lawn!Originally Posted by Fred Sanford
Have fun!
I'll be working sound for the U's oldest a cappella group just a couple of blocks away (in a much nicer venue!). I'll step outside with my dB meter and see what Metallica measures across the lawn!
Have fun!
". . . as you have no doubt noticed, no one told the 4345 that it can't work correctly so it does anyway."—Greg Timbers
We'll see- I'm going as a guest of Metallica's management, the last thing I want to do is attract any negative attention.You could arrive early and go talk to security with your owner's manual
I'm really quite curious, though. Maybe once I'm in I'll introduce myself & see if the FOH sound crew keeps an SPL meter at the desk, or has a range they target show to show.
je
Excellent- enjoy your gig, and your venue. This show is in the round, so picture the stage as a circle at center court, reaching to the bleachers on either side. Both ends of the court are general admission, I'm 4 rows up from the stage right at the center line.I'll be working sound for the U's oldest a cappella group just a couple of blocks away (in a much nicer venue!). I'll step outside with my dB meter and see what Metallica measures across the lawn!
Have fun!
Maybe I should bring a barometer instead- you'd probably be able to measure changes in atmospheric pressure at that spot.
I saw the Chili Peppers here in '07 (same management company), and sound for them was great, but the opening act was unbearable- just a ginormous non-stop wall of bass with no definition at all. I had all-access passes for that one, and walked around anywhere I wanted, and the openers (Gnarls Barkley) just didn't sound coherent from anywhere...nothing but sludge. Once the Peppers came on, Dave Rat did his thing & I took my earplugs out & enjoyed the show.
je
I could see where you might turn into persona non grata showing up at
a metal show with an SPL meterFunny... Hetfield was in my high school
woodshop class for a few weeks... wanted to start out making guitars from
day one (hey, me too bud)... Guessing the instructor became one of the
"unforgiven"
iPhone? http://www.studiosixdigital.com/ ... other, including free, SPL apps exist as well...
I'll check if somebody has an iPhone, that's a good idea- thanks.I could see where you might turn into persona non grata showing up at
a metal show with an SPL meter
woodshop class for a few weeks... wanted to start out making guitars from
day one (hey, me too bud)... Guessing the instructor became one of the
"unforgiven"
iPhone? http://www.studiosixdigital.com/ ... other, including free, SPL apps exist as well...
je
No SPL meters, no iPhones, no easy access to the FOH guys, but easily 100dB+. Great night, great people, and Metallica put on a great show. Two opening bands (Lamb Of God & Gojira) were good players but not too memorable to me. No intelligible lyrics other than many, many F-bombs, really.
The only time I got blasted & wasn't prepared was when a roadie suddenly started sound-checking a guitar and it was so loud & brittle that it instantly hurt. Looked like Meyer arrays, 8 of them or so, 15-18 cabs in each with sub arrays up behind them. Crappy pocket camera couldn't capture anything with the available lighting. Attached pic gives you an idea of our vantage point- it's cropped top & bottom, but not really zoomed- they tossed guitar picks that easily reached us.
We were directly in front of their stage cabs, at eye level, so we had a bit of extra slam but not as much as you'd think. Killer seats, aside from the drunk dumbass 2 rows ahead that first videotaped the show & got in a tussle with security over that, then berated two really low-key & happy guys for speaking Spanish, then stole a beach ball from the folks in front of him, then ultimately took a sucker-punch swing at the guy behind him for no visible reason at all. He got a quick & efficient beat-down from a number of folks & was carried away by security to see the friendly police officers.
Sound started out fine, with lots of definition to the drums, but vocals a bit sludgy. Maybe 5 songs in it got so loud you could no longer pick out the drum dynamics, but that only lasted 3-4 songs at the most before they sorted it out. There was no definition to the bass guitar, I didn't really expect any. LONG show for the energy they were putting out, they played non-stop from maybe 9:05 to after 11 & stayed for a long while tossing picks & sticks & thanking the crowd. Oh, yeah- the crowd was LOUD when they wanted to be.
My ears rang a little bit after the show & heading off to bed, not much at all now (the TiVo hard drive in the room with me is much louder). Duration more than overall volume, plus the guitar soundcheck thing on top, I think.
je
Quote JBL 4645 (a Brit):
I always take my SPL db metre with me
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Me too, sometimes.
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So did you take some ear plugs with you because I wouldn’t go anywhere near to one of those concerts without ear plugs.
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Friggin' Party pooper! Obviously you're:
A: Too old
B: Not a Fan of Good old American Rock 'n' Roll
C: Never seen Z*Z*TOP*
(choose all that apply)
Note: If I were sitting close in front of the mains I might end up wearing plugs at certain shows, but not where this picture shows.
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You should have waited for most of the cowards at the front to leave after the concert then walked up closer to get a few more pictures.
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Good Idea! I've hung around after many a show to get a good look. But I wouldn't call them cowards. I'd call them lucky!
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I would say more than 100db! You have crowds of people yelling and that would put me off going because I go to listen not to listen to screaming mindless cowards adding on a few more extra db! Performances like this don’t have any true reference sound level, unless the crowds no the virtue of silence! Hush and listen for one in your lives![/quote]
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Waaah!
Refer to A, B, and C above
Wish I'd seen them! Last time I saw them live was in the 1990's
Rudy
"If it's too loud, you're too old"
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