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    4311WX ... black?? ... possible !?

    Hi

    i have a pair 4311WX, ... the normaly should be walnut .... because the are black.... looks like the front and rear side.... 100% the same color

    is it possible that JBL but the wrong numberplate on my JBLs ???

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    Umm, I think photos of the sides, and top and bottom might me more revealing.
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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by BMWCCA View Post
    Umm, I think photos of the sides, and top and bottom might me more revealing.

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    often these were painted for custom installations... e.g., many were sold off
    in such condition after the closing of a large US chain of recorded music stores.

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    is it possible that the walnut finish is under the black color? ... did anybody have the same? .... 4311WX = black ???
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    that's what I'm suggesting... WX = walnut.

    There are stories/examples here in this forum somewhere, I believe many such
    black-painted cabinets were obtained from Tower Records, while they were
    selling off their assets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpy View Post
    that's what I'm suggesting... WX = walnut.

    There are stories/examples here in this forum somewhere, I believe many such
    black-painted cabinets were obtained from Tower Records, while they were
    selling off their assets.

    Okay and thank you

    i would like to try remove the black color.... to see what is behind .... i will beginn on the rear side
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    I'd try the bottom, the back panel is not likely to be veneered.

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    I not a cabinet maker but I would guess that removing black paint from veneer is a tall order.

    A chemical paint remover may get most but not all of it off. Sanding using a super fine paper might be succesful in getting most of the rest of it off but the veneer is thin.

    I would ask others here that have more experience than I before attempting this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robertbartsch View Post
    I not a cabinet maker but I would guess that removing black paint from veneer is a tall order.

    A chemical paint remover may get most but not all of it off. Sanding using a super fine paper might be succesful in getting most of the rest of it off but the veneer is thin.

    I would ask others here that have more experience than I before attempting this.

    thank you .... i will wait for some more answers ...


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    If the black finish is tolerable, I'd leave it be.

    You might find after all the work removimg it that the result
    is disappointing...and end up painting them all over again.

    Just my humble opinion

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    If someone here has better recall than I, perhaps the story, with pictures
    will pop up. I just can't remember who did this... maybe a few years ago?

    At least you could then see if they had problems sanding through the veneer
    or were successful...

    ... of course it could also be that the previous owner sprayed them black to
    cover up problems with the veneer. :dont-know

    Good news: it's not all that hard to re-spray something in a non-gloss black finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gugsi View Post
    thank you .... i will wait for some more answers ...


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    Forget stripping all that paint -= Why not just reveneer them?
    The advantage of that is you are not limited to Walnut - you can use any finish you prefer!

    Here's a look at the 4312A speakers I had briefly in late 2005 - they had the factory black finish.
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    good point... also appears it was 4412's that came from Tower Records,
    but -someone- here took a stab at refinishing a black-sprayed walnut pair...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hjames View Post
    Forget stripping all that paint -= Why not just reveneer them?
    The advantage of that is you are not limited to Walnut - you can use any finish you prefer!
    This is by far the best suggestion with the best end result.
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