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    what is the difference:
    LOW FREQUENCE
    136A (Alnico) L300
    136H (Ferrite) L300A
    is 2235H better than this ?

    MIDRANGE:
    What can be changed on the LE85 to be better
    what is the difference on H92Horn and Lens and 2425J

    HIGH:
    what is the change on 077 and 2405H

    SHIPPING Weight :
    145lbs _ 66KG (L300)
    152lbs _ 69KG (L300A)
    Why the L300A are the heaviest ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mm54 View Post
    what is the difference:
    LOW FREQUENCE
    136A (Alnico) L300
    136H (Ferrite) L300A
    ...
    SHIPPING Weight :
    145lbs _ 66KG (L300)
    152lbs _ 69KG (L300A)
    Why the L300A are the heaviest ?
    Compare the weight of the magnet assemblies (pro equivalents but basically the same baskets):

    http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/...-comp/2231.htm
    http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/...-comp/2235.htm

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    A Very Fine Speaker

    I really like the Summit with the 2235 in it. I wouldn't change anything else.
    It would not be a summit if you changed anything else IMHO.

    They could stand being raised off the floor 150 mm .

    I'd be proud to own a pair.

    Rich

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    Quote Originally Posted by mm54 View Post
    is 2235H better than this ?
    I have no experience other than to tell you the 2235 is often mentioned on this site as an improvement for the L300/4333 systems. I believe there are several here who have made the swap and can better tell you what to expect.

    Is your system now up and running? I must have missed your impressions of your new L300s. Are you looking for or were you expecting more LF output than you're getting now?

    Personally, I have the 18" 2245H woofers so I consider myself spoiled!
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    I have the 18" 2245H woofers so I consider myself spoiled!

    Hi BMWCA

    just wait and give them 6 months. Its amazing how something that big can be so delicate. I have both sitting here at the moment to A/B. I had never gotten to hear a 2235 before "IT AINT A POOR MANS 2245" imho. It has everything you could ever want for a home application 15". Nice bloody speakers you have there old bean ! BTW

    Rich

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    Greetings, All,

    Our L300's have 2235H's in them, and we love that woofer, very much! It's offers tight, highly detailed bass, and a warm sweet sound that is very natural to our ears. When I say "our" ears, I mean Sweet Bride and myself. We both feel the same about the L300's with the 2235H woofers. I have another pair of 2235H's, which are installed in the 4333 cabinets that Grumpy sent my way. I've not yet done the work necessary to be able to use those boxes, but hope to do so, "one of these days".... LOVE the 2235H woofer, though, and I think any L300 system could benefit from using it. For what it's worth.... Take care, and God Bless!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWCCA View Post
    Is your system now up and running? I must have missed your impressions of your new L300s. Are you looking for or were you expecting more LF output than you're getting now?

    Personally, I have the 18" 2245H woofers so I consider myself spoiled!
    Hi BMWCCA
    the 2245 seems to be impressive if you look at the specifications, are there changes in the homogeneity of origin L300 ?
    What is the price of this 2245 and is it difficult to find, if i must change in a few years, i think i can take it ...it is not a priority actualy

    LF is verry good for me !! listen to my vinyl on my Accuphase and L300, I had the impression of rediscovering the music with a real pleasure and I was very surprised at the sound!
    not tested with my BOSE1801 actualy in stand by..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fangio View Post
    Compare the weight of the magnet assemblies (pro equivalents but basically the same baskets):
    LOW FREQUENCES
    JBL 2231
    JBL 2235

    thank you Fangio!
    you have an idea about the difference between the two woofer (except weight)
    136A (Alnico) L300
    136H (Ferrite) L300A
    i have not find a link ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by richluvsound View Post
    Its amazing how something that big can be so delicate.
    Exactly. Their performance at low volume is truly amazing. I balked at first figuring something that big would suck up the power. The owner patiently explained to me that with the same effortl the eighteen with the same motor pushes nearly twice the air of the fifteen. The sacrifice in real-estate is minimal. Robert called the 2245 the "velvet hammer" and bi-amping keeps them damped nicely.

    mm54: Sorry to take you off topic. The 2245 is an 18" woofer. I don't think you want to go that road with your iconic L300s, even if it would fit! If you're interested, you might want to look for a pair of 4345s, talk with Rich about his, or work out a nice DIY as many have here.
    ". . . as you have no doubt noticed, no one told the 4345 that it can't work correctly so it does anyway."—Greg Timbers

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    What is the pro components of this :

    MIDRANGE:
    LE85 ?

    HIGH:
    077 is the 2405H ? what is the H on 2405 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWCCA View Post
    mm54: Sorry to take you off topic. The 2245 is an 18" woofer. I don't think you want to go that road with your iconic L300s, even if it would fit! If you're interested, you might want to look for a pair of 4345s, talk with Rich about his, or work out a nice DIY as many have here.
    no probleme .. I thought you had 2245 on L300 ! well I was wrong
    all components of my L300 are from just a few upgraded capacitors and output connectors HP (pictures in few days if i can)

    What is the price of 2235H and is it difficult to find ?
    Michel

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    Hi rich

    what do you make changes to improve the sound quality of the already very good L300?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mm54 View Post
    What is the pro components of this :

    MIDRANGE:
    LE85 ?

    HIGH:
    077 is the 2405H ? what is the H on 2405 ?
    Get familiar with this site ...

    http://www.jblpro.com/pages/obsolete.htm

    Also this part of the Lansing Forum - the Library
    http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/...p/pro-comp.htm

    You can look up all of your Pro drivers here, get their specs and such...

    2405 = 077 - see
    http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/...-comp/2405.htm

    2420 is LE85 driver
    (also 2425 - new ones)
    see - http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/...-comp/2420.htm

    2312 is Long horn (as used in L300 and 4333)
    2307 is short horn (as used in L200s and such)

    oh, and the 2235s??

    http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/...-comp/2235.htm
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    hjames thank you

    Michel

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    This is one of my favorite and more useful Pro links when it comes to what goes in which of the Studio Monitor series, but it's often kind of hard to find amid all the others: http://www.jblproservice.com/pdf/Sys...r%20Series.pdf
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