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    Jbl L300 Summit

    I have find 2 JBL L300 SUMMIT 75 i must wait for pickup in 2 or 3 weeks
    if someone has documents, informations on product or transformation, upgrade or link on JBL L300 SUMMIT I'm interested thank you

    Find on the net (by Dan):
    JBL has made some incredible speakers in their history, and there is no doubt that the Paragon and the Hartsfield are two of their greatest achievements, and few also would argue that the 4345 has the slight edge on the L300 Summit for audiophile sound quality. But for many reasons the JBL L300 Summit is an icon of not just the JBL product line, but the audio industry altogether. It is something akin to the 1957 Chevy in capturing the essence of an era. In the 1950’s and 1960’s, if you dreamed about a car, it likely was an early model Corvette or the 1957 Chevy Bel Air (probably the convertible!). In the 1970’s, if you dreamed about a set of speakers, it was this pair of JBL L300 Summits. The L300 Summit represents an era of historic greatness, when products that were “Made in America” meant that it was the most innovative design, the best quality materials and components, the absolute best construction and attention to detail, and the best performance possible. In 1975 JBL was at its zenith in terms of Quality Control, Engineering and Design Innovation, and these L300 Summits were State of the Art. Impeccably styled, superb cabinet construction, and absolutely phenomenal driver quality created what was then the astronomically priced statement speaker at $3,000 a pair in 1975 – 33 years ago!

    These speakers sound fabulous – no other way to describe it. The combination of finesse and delicacy coupled with the amazing muscle of the 15” JBL 136A woofer create a sound that is just indescribable. The combination of the 136A woofer, the LE85 midrange horn and the incredibly delicious 077 crystal slot tweeter were the culmination of more than 20 years of JBL research and design, and to say that they have withstood the test of time and are still relevant today is a huge understatement. The reason that the demand for these premium speakers is so high is that the drivers out-perform almost everything being made today. This speaker will blow you away with its carefully blended combination of graceful and intimate detail and raw, chest pounding power - it is the quintessential 3-way speaker system.

    Technical Details

    These Summits were built between 1975-1982 which were arguably JBL’s most innovative and prolific period. These were designed by Greg Timbers, who worked at JBL for over 35 years and is one of the worlds most respected speaker designers.

    This is an extremely pure and clean design – a 3-way speaker with extremely high-end components include a massive 15" 136A woofer with 4 inch edge wound voice coil and an optimized alnico motor structure for ultra low distortion. The authoritative bass performance of this classic woofer still rivals the best modern designs. The LE85 midrange features a 1.75 diameter edge wound aluminum voice coil and an alnico motor structure. It fires through a cast aluminum exponential horn and wide dispersion lens assembly. The 077 tweeter features a very efficient ring radiator design with an aluminum diaphragm which has been shown to be one of the most effective ways to achieve flat, extended frequency response beyond 20 kHz. The design of the high frequency driver matches the directivity of midrange horn beautifully which leads to a near-perfect transition between them.

    The performance specs are readily available from JBL or the JBL Heritage site. Basic info:

    Size = 31.5” x 23” x 23.5”
    Unpacked Weight = 145 lbs apiece
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    Look, just freakin' Google IT!!

    besides, this is the Mother Lode of JBL Info -
    that stuff is already here, loaded in "The Library"
    Look at the Black bar 1/4 of the way down the page - where it says

    USER CP - FAQ - Library ...

    Yeah, click LIBRARY
    then click JBL Library
    Then click SPECS
    Then click Home Speakers ...

    Its real easy - they keep using pictures of L300s as typical speakers!

    Halfway down that page is a scanned in brochure of the 1975 L300

    http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/.../1975-l300.htm

    Go fer it!

    There is all kinds of other info here - just use the site SEARCH and type in L300 Zingo - the words will come!

    Welcome to the site, and good luck on your new vintage speakers!





    Quote Originally Posted by mm54 View Post
    I have find 2 JBL L300 SUMMIT 75 i must wait for pickup in 2 or 3 weeks
    if someone has documents, informations on product or transformation, upgrade or link on JBL L300 SUMMIT I'm interested thank you

    Much redundant specs deleted by Heather ...
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    I also pointed you toward the JBL technical sheets on the two (L300/L300A) versions here: http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/s...44&postcount=9
    ". . . as you have no doubt noticed, no one told the 4345 that it can't work correctly so it does anyway."—Greg Timbers

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    Gotta love, "The performance specs are readily available from JBL or the JBL Heritage site."

    You found your way here, I bet you can find your way to the docs you seek.

    It's nice to be able to come here and tell people to STFA (Search the Forum/F** Archives) since we're not allowed to do that over on AK where the same OP made the same post. There must be 10 "Where can I buy lamps for xxx receiver?" posts in the same forum there every week.

    LOL.


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    thank you hjames & BMWCCA i appréciate your help
    i have also make a post on ak to have informations on JBL L300SUMMIT
    and have a idea less "targeted" JBL and I have no more informations ..
    I had to make a choice quickly and decided to buy the L300 summit I'm very happy to have done
    have you an idea of the price for the JBL L300SUMMIT in USA
    in europe it is EUR3000,-- if the speakers are in good cosmetic condition and operating
    thank you brutal I thought I could get other information that is available outside the sites and links usual ..
    again thank you all for your help

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    Quote Originally Posted by mm54 View Post
    have you an idea of the price for the JBL L300SUMMIT in USA
    in europe it is EUR3000,-- if the speakers are in good cosmetic condition and operating
    I'd have to say excellent pairs are generally being offered with asking prices around $3,600 USD. About a month ago a pretty nice pair from an original owner's son went for $2,300 on Ebay after 16 bids. Another pretty nice pair in need of new grille cloth went days ago for $3,495 also on Ebay. So actual price on any given day is just a guess.
    ". . . as you have no doubt noticed, no one told the 4345 that it can't work correctly so it does anyway."—Greg Timbers

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    what is the difference:
    LOW FREQUENCE
    136A (Alnico) L300
    136H (Ferrite) L300A
    is 2235H better than this ?

    MIDRANGE:
    What can be changed on the LE85 to be better
    what is the difference on H92Horn and Lens and 2425J

    HIGH:
    what is the change on 077 and 2405H

    SHIPPING Weight :
    145lbs _ 66KG (L300)
    152lbs _ 69KG (L300A)
    Why the L300A are the heaviest ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mm54 View Post
    what is the difference:
    LOW FREQUENCE
    136A (Alnico) L300
    136H (Ferrite) L300A
    ...
    SHIPPING Weight :
    145lbs _ 66KG (L300)
    152lbs _ 69KG (L300A)
    Why the L300A are the heaviest ?
    Compare the weight of the magnet assemblies (pro equivalents but basically the same baskets):

    http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/...-comp/2231.htm
    http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/...-comp/2235.htm

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    A Very Fine Speaker

    I really like the Summit with the 2235 in it. I wouldn't change anything else.
    It would not be a summit if you changed anything else IMHO.

    They could stand being raised off the floor 150 mm .

    I'd be proud to own a pair.

    Rich

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fangio View Post
    Compare the weight of the magnet assemblies (pro equivalents but basically the same baskets):
    LOW FREQUENCES
    JBL 2231
    JBL 2235

    thank you Fangio!
    you have an idea about the difference between the two woofer (except weight)
    136A (Alnico) L300
    136H (Ferrite) L300A
    i have not find a link ..

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    What is the pro components of this :

    MIDRANGE:
    LE85 ?

    HIGH:
    077 is the 2405H ? what is the H on 2405 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mm54 View Post
    What is the pro components of this :

    MIDRANGE:
    LE85 ?

    HIGH:
    077 is the 2405H ? what is the H on 2405 ?
    Get familiar with this site ...

    http://www.jblpro.com/pages/obsolete.htm

    Also this part of the Lansing Forum - the Library
    http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/...p/pro-comp.htm

    You can look up all of your Pro drivers here, get their specs and such...

    2405 = 077 - see
    http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/...-comp/2405.htm

    2420 is LE85 driver
    (also 2425 - new ones)
    see - http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/...-comp/2420.htm

    2312 is Long horn (as used in L300 and 4333)
    2307 is short horn (as used in L200s and such)

    oh, and the 2235s??

    http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/...-comp/2235.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by mm54 View Post
    you have an idea about the difference between the two woofer (except weight)
    136A (Alnico) L300
    136H (Ferrite) L300A
    i have not find a link ..
    Me neither, never seen a direct link to a data sheet for one of them. AFAIK the magnet assembly is the only difference.

    Anyway, next level would be the different magnet ingredients.

    Note that discussions about alnico vs. ferrite, and their impact on sound can get very passionate here...
    Facts to start with:

    http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=37039&postcount=1

    and the designer on the subject:

    http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/s...2&postcount=29

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fangio View Post
    Great link! Got to love an engineer with a sense of humor about his work!
    Quote Originally Posted by gtimbers View Post
    The old decade woofers (116A and 127A) only had to see an amplifier in the room and they got really nervous.
    ". . . as you have no doubt noticed, no one told the 4345 that it can't work correctly so it does anyway."—Greg Timbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by mm54 View Post
    is 2235H better than this ?
    I have no experience other than to tell you the 2235 is often mentioned on this site as an improvement for the L300/4333 systems. I believe there are several here who have made the swap and can better tell you what to expect.

    Is your system now up and running? I must have missed your impressions of your new L300s. Are you looking for or were you expecting more LF output than you're getting now?

    Personally, I have the 18" 2245H woofers so I consider myself spoiled!
    ". . . as you have no doubt noticed, no one told the 4345 that it can't work correctly so it does anyway."—Greg Timbers

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