JBL no longer studio monitor of choice.

[Akira]

a few months ago at the AES that was here in SF, JBL was performing multi-channel demos of several monitors and the professional mixers and engineers seemed pretty impressed... Harman also had a semi trailer in the main hall that was decked out as a two room mobile studio... JBLs were everywhere in it along with Soundcraft, Studer, BSS etc...


Widget

Oh the luxury of living on the west coast. Not only do we freeze our asses off in the Great White North...they deprive of of our JBL's

[robertbartsch]

Well your right, I suppose.

In the 1970s and 80s, JBL used to DOMINATE in all markets. However, now it is different. Their presence in home theater is minimal at best; in large scale sound reproduction they are the best but others are making significant headway. In theaters they still own the market, I presume.

Everyone has their own views on their troubles but I would characterize the issue as one of people not caring much about the quality of sound (music) reproduction.

Why use a heavy big complicated piece of sound equipment when a cheesie small unit is availible and cheap?

Yeh, their stuff is technically superior to about 98% of everything out there but, again, unfortunately, not many people care much.

[JBLRaiser]

Well tell me. Is JBL one of the dominant names in the near field market? How about the home market?
My impression in both cases is neither.

They are contenders in the sound reinforcement market, which is crowded with several good manufacturer's.
They certainly dominate the theater market and thus I see many JBL systems in full scale post houses.
They also have a pretty intense high end home theater department but, I ain't rich enough to comment on that one.

So bottom line. Does JBL have a marketing problem, because I really believe their product can stand up to the best, but from my neck of the woods I just don't see them on the radar in certain markets. The pro audio stores in Canada have walls of near fields set up side by side for comparison and not a single JBL...next time I'm there I'm going to have to ask them why not.

p.s. I made it clear that the GS community is widely diverse and every mixing application is looking for certain qualities in a small near field to fit their unique criteria. Like I said the high end players are willing to over pay for crappy NS10's. But, the one thing they all have in common (multiple polls) is a lack of JBL.
p.p.s. Who ever said it was my poll?

the fact Canada has so many speaker manufacturers and is government supported has anything to do with it.http://www.canadianmade.com/speakers.html

[Chas]

the fact Canada has so many speaker manufacturers and is government supported has anything to do with it.http://www.canadianmade.com/speakers.html

Government supported? Huh? Maybe you need to have a peek at corporate (and for that matter personal) tax rates in Canada and compare them to the U.S.

[John]

the fact Canada has so many speaker manufacturers and is government supported has anything to do with it.http://www.canadianmade.com/speakers.html

How is it you always see everything in the same light???

[JBL 4645]

New JBL LSR arrivals for 2009 the 2300 series looks posh. too bad I’m poor person and can only afford JBL control 5 and 1 and one JBL diy 4645.


JBL 2300 series
http://www2.jblpro.com/catalog/general/ProductFamily.aspx?FId=73&MId=5

Google product search only has two possible low prices thou I would pass on the £81,339 I don't have £81 grand what noody cloud are they living on for pete sakes?
http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=JBL+LSR2328P+&hl=en

[JBLRaiser]

How is it you always see everything in the same light???

http://www.psbspeakers.com/audio-top...ton-at-the-NRC

http://www.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/main_e.html

Nothing derogatory meant.

[timc]

New JBL LSR arrivals for 2009 the 2300 series looks posh. too bad I’m poor person and can only afford JBL control 5 and 1 and one JBL diy 4645.


JBL 2300 series
http://www2.jblpro.com/catalog/general/ProductFamily.aspx?FId=73&MId=5

Google product search only has two possible low prices thou I would pass on the £81,339 I don't have £81 grand what noody cloud are they living on for pete sakes?
http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=JBL+LSR2328P+&hl=en

The LSR 2300 series isnt that expensive. The 2325 kosts about £250 each here in Norway.


-Tim

[LE15-Thumper]

Let's check our ego's at the door and stay on topic.

[Doctor_Electron]

Quote: "Just so Al Gore can't claim that he invented the MP3 as well as the internet." John

But perhaps he will broker... Tin Ear Credits?

OK, I apologize for staying off topic. Honestly!

[JBL 4645]

The LSR 2300 series isnt that expensive. The 2325 kosts about £250 each here in Norway.


-Tim

So some idiot must have priced it wrong then?

£250.00 sounds about right.

[timc]

So some idiot must have priced it wrong then?

£250.00 sounds about right.

Seems so. I would guess it is cheaper in the UK because you have a bit lower VAT.

I don't think £500 a pair is bad at all


-Tim

[bone215]

My recent experiences with JBL have been with a purchase of S38's used, a modest three way bookshelf speaker. I liked them quite a bit. I sold them to a musician and recently listened to them in his home and they still sound quite good.
JBL's S120PII ported subs. I liked them as well.
4408A studio monitors. I sold them and the subs to a musician who uses them as mixers when he records his band. I liked the 4408A's as well.
I presently use 4412A's along with a sub for my basement sound system and they continue to delight and surprise me, they are quite good when used with good source material. I can pick out mixes and CD's with too much reverb, lousy recordings of snare drums etc. Earlier today I was listened to a nicely recorded Maynard Ferguson CD and well, it was all there nice and clean. I don't know anything about how music is recorded and mixed and all that. What I do know is with the 4412A's I can 'hear into' how the source materials were recorded, by that I mean, when the source was done well I can hear all the instruments and the instruments sound like what I 'think' the instuments are supposed to sound like. Pianos sound like pianos, saxaphones sound like saxaphones, trumpets, drums etc. When I listen to some of the Rippington stuff, well some of it is right and some of it isn't. I have heard the term 'revealing' and that seems about right.
The Polks I use in the living room and the NHT bookshelves I use in the rec room theatre system seem to be more 'forgiving' and not quite as 'revealing' of the mix-close, but not quite as accurate.
I guess it just all depends. I do know that if I had lots of bucks and needed to buy speakers, certainly I would seek out some of the higher priced JBL offerings.
I like this forum and all the info presented, and, yes, the market place is changing. Then again, everything changes any way so . . .