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    I only have one word to say well five words actually.






    You suck Dome. Nice did I miss the model or series type as there are so many of the JBL Synthesis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonfu@ymail.com View Post
    May I ask how much this is setting you back?
    I would say around $50.000 thousands dollars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonfu@ymail.com View Post
    May I ask how much this is setting you back?
    Quote Originally Posted by BMWCCA View Post
    Well, you did. Though it might be considered rude to do so.
    Quote Originally Posted by Robh3606 View Post
    Nice set-up!! Did you purchase the system on E-Bay?? Looks like the same line up.

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    I bought it direct from an authorized Synthesis® dealer. You'll have to speculate on the rest.
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    Congratulation!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium Dome View Post
    I bought it direct from an authorized Synthesis® dealer. You'll have to speculate on the rest.
    Well the Empire Leicester Square ultimate JBL custom THX was £250.000 grand and that is untouchable at 56KW making it the most powerful THX cinema in the whole of Europe.

    Come on you can share how much you paid for it there is no shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pos View Post
    Congrats!
    Guess it's time for you to change your avatar


    And the 8" in these two speakers are quite different as well, distortion-wise :

    Array 8:
    http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/s...65&postcount=9

    Synthesis 8:
    http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/s...02&postcount=3
    Yes, that info was quite illuminating. The Synthesis8 is light and tight (CMMD cones and Neo magnets help) and has a nice looking response from 60 Hz to 3 kHz. The heavier, smaller VC, paper Array8 looks similar from 60 Hz to 900 Hz, but after that it's bye-bye.

    The 800 Array is a very nice speaker, but the SAM1HF and SAM2LF combo go to a different level of performance.

    I checked into doing an Array 800-based 7.1 system and could get very nice prices on the units and subs, but it really didn't go to the level of the Synthesis®.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjames View Post
    Pulease - thats so CRASS and quite RUDE!

    ... its not about what he paid,
    tho I'd imagine he got a good deal,
    Its all about the SOUND!

    I'd say he's got a really cool system on the way -
    wish he was closer so I could listen some time!

    Congratulations, TiDome!
    I’m not being rude we all, know what they go for each model range.

    Yeah no doubt good deal and awesome JBL!
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    Price

    I think it's fair to say that every JBL Synthesis® dealer out there needs to make his or her own deals and needs to make a profit to stay in business. They don't want to have to meet or beat prices quoted by some clown (that's me) on the Internet. The husband/wife dealer team I dealt with was stand up, considerate, and a pleasure to work with. They were more than fair and very open.

    I won't put them or JBL in a position to have to defend pricing or sales to past, current, or future customers. In this case, their desire to sell and my desire to buy found common ground and a purchase was made. Both parties are happy, and everyone walks away a winner.

    I know we all like to report on our best deals, and I like to do the same. With products that are no longer in production or sold on ebay or in big chains, I'm more than willing to spill the beans. However, in this case, I would not want to be careless or casual and inadvertently make life any more complicated for these hard working small business folks.

    Fair enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium Dome View Post
    Fair enough?
    Yep!

    I think all we really care about are some pictures and your personal impressions once it all gets set up properly.
    I assume the Dealer will help you with that as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium Dome View Post
    Here's one of the threads that influenced the decision.
    http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/s...ght=1400+Array
    To the gentleman who thought that discussing these things might be pointless, I hope he takes heart from the fact it influenced a major purchase of current JBL gear. I am glad the discussion took place.
    Hah! I enjoyed reading that thread again. Seems I've been a participant in a couple of these "speaker safari" threads to no avail. But that fatalist in me figures there was some reason for it. We'll see if the 4345s are it. Looks like Sub and me will be two old hippies with the air sucked out of ourselves while you all debate "nuance" in the home-theater forum.

    Michael Phelps is supposed to come over to listen to some Inagaddadavida with me as soon as I get them setup. I promised him I'd not be posting the photos here.

    You're my hero, Dome. Can't wait to get the report. Get a drool bib!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4313B View Post
    Yep!

    I assume the Dealer will help you with that as well?
    Yes, through JBL. I wouldn't know where to begin with the SDEC-4000X.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium Dome View Post
    I think it's fair to say that every JBL Synthesis® dealer out there needs to make his or her own deals and needs to make a profit to stay in business. They don't want to have to meet or beat prices quoted by some clown (that's me) on the Internet. The husband/wife dealer team I dealt with was stand up, considerate, and a pleasure to work with. They were more than fair and very open.

    Fair enough?
    I assume that this Synthesis dealer is not the Synthesis dealer that told you in '02 to take a walk, when you only wanted to buy a $10k PS system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jblsound View Post
    I assume that this Synthesis dealer is not the Synthesis dealer that told you in '02 to take a walk, when you only wanted to buy a $10k PS system.
    You assume correctly. Didn't even give that guy a call this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium Dome View Post
    You assume correctly. Didn't even give that guy a call this time.
    I know there are around 8 million people in the LA area. So how does that break down to the number of Synthesis dealers for that area?
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    I really envy you ti dome in a good way

    please document installation and please comment if you will have the calibration using the new bass room algorithm form JBL

    The JBL Synthesis SDEC-4500 is the most advanced digital equalizer ever offered by the brand. It optimizes the performance of a JBL Synthesis system in any room, using more than 200 bands of fully parametric digital equalization that can be adjusted from 1/100 octave to 4 octaves wide at +15dB to – infinity, between 20Hz – 20kHz, to correct dips and peaks throughout the frequency range.

    In all rooms, there are powerful resonances that emphasize some frequencies and attenuate others. The
    SDEC-4500 compensates for these irregularities with far greater precision than has ever been available before, to deliver extraordinary sonic accuracy that meets or exceeds the standards for professional theaters.

    The SDEC-4500 is improved from previous models; it’s now capable of applying more precise equalization, with a greater number of adjustable frequency bands, to all of the main, center and surround loudspeakers in a home theater system, and to multiple subwoofers.

    The SDEC-4500 also offers an easier-to-use PC “control panel” interface and numerous additional enhancements, including automatic arrival-time calibration for all the loudspeakers and drivers in a multichannel system; an improved Auto-Film-Screen-Compensation feature that automatically corrects for the attenuation in high-frequency output that can occur when a loudspeaker is located behind projection screens of various materials; automatic control capabilities with other JBL Synthesis components; and many other versatile features.

    Because no two rooms are alike, the Harman Audio Test System, which interfaces with the SDEC-4500 (and other JBL Synthesis equalizers), allows a JBL® factory-trained-and-certified technician to custom-fit the sound of a Synthesis system to the room in which it is installed.

    The Harman Audio Test System is a powerful 16-channel audio analyzer optimized for measuring loudspeaker and room interactions. The analyzer can be configured for either eight-input/eight-output operation, which is ideal for calibrating home theater systems, or for 12-input/four-output operation, which is well suited for use in an anechoic chamber or for car-audio-systems development.

    The Harman Audio Test System uses multiple microphones (eight for a JBL Synthesis system) to measure different locations in a room, and applies proprietary digital-signal processing to analyze and correct for the room’s frequency dips and peaks.

    The Harman Audio Test System supports 48kHz and 96kHz sample rates, with 20-bit resolution. Its input channels can be used as microphone inputs (with phantom power), or as line-level inputs. All 16 channels of A/D and D/A conversion take place in the Harman Audio Test System hardware, which interfaces with a PC and an SDEC-4500 (or other compatible JBL Synthesis digital equalizer) via Ethernet connections.

    When used in a JBL Synthesis system, the Harman Audio Test System enables the achievement of flat in-room frequency response, or frequency correction to any desired target curve. Additional functions include automatic crossover optimization between the main speakers and the subwoofers in a multichannel system; automatic loudspeaker-level calibration; and a newly developed sound field management algorithm that minimizes the seat-to-seat variation in bass response in a home theater system to a far more effective degree than do other hardware and software solutions.

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