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    I'm on Comcast too , and HAD been having exact same problems as BMWCCA , but no problems for about a week ... speed is fine

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    The site was running super hot all day. Now it's bogged down. Took me over a minute just to load one page of this thread. I'm running a traceroute now. I have no idea what it means, or how long to run it.

    Edit: but it posted this reply quick enough with no stall.

    Traceroute has started ...

    traceroute to http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/ (208.69.32.132), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
    1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 1.423 ms 0.905 ms 1.012 ms
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    Unbelievably slow for the past couple days. Takes forever to load a thread, with one post appearing at a time. Sometimes, hitting reload will break the bottleneck and load the page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post
    Unbelievably slow for the past couple days. Takes forever to load a thread, with one post appearing at a time. Sometimes, hitting reload will break the bottleneck and load the page.

    XP and FF 2

    Do you use Comcast?
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    Reporting the good with the bad:

    Everything is working great right now and the site loads as quickly as any other I've been to today. I can even access the smilie page which I'm sure adds so much more to the forum experience for those who bother to check my posts!

    Fingers crossed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Nebel View Post
    Do you use Comcast?
    Yes, but this is the only site having trouble. I just waited 30 sec for this reply box to open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post
    Yes, but this is the only site having trouble. I just waited 30 sec for this reply box to open.
    The problem is likely Comcast. You could find a neighbor who doesn't use Comcast and try it there.

    Bo had a similar problem over the weekend at home with Comcast, but the site worked fine at his work.

    Comcast appears to be limiting bandwidth.

    I'm typing "Comcast" way too much!
    Last edited by John Nebel; 12-10-2008 at 01:44 PM. Reason: Type comcast a few more times
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Nebel View Post
    The problem is likely Comcast. You could find a neighbor who doesn't use Comcast and try it there.

    Bo had a similar problem over the weekend at home with Comcast, but the site worked fine at his work.

    Comcast appears to be limiting bandwidth.

    I'm typing "Comcast" way too much!
    OK, so every single forum and site on the net is working fine, but Comcast has an issue with this particular site. Hmmmmm.

    FWIF, LansingHeritage.org is also extremely slow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post
    OK, so every single forum and site on the net is working fine, but Comcast has an issue with this particular site. Hmmmmm.

    FWIF, LansingHeritage.org is also extremely slow.
    Yeah, sometimes thats how internet routing works ... a slew of net addresses can be funky through one ISP

    But I don't know why you'd expect these two addresses to NOT work the same for you ... they are on the same hosting service ...
    Basically that means your path to both of them is the same...

    AudioHeritage.org -
    Name Server:NS1.CSD.NET
    Name Server:NS2.CSD.NET

    LansingHeritage.org -
    Name Server:NS1.CSD.NET
    Name Server:NS2.CSD.NET
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post
    OK, so every single forum and site on the net is working fine, but Comcast has an issue with this particular site. Hmmmmm.

    FWIF, LansingHeritage.org is also extremely slow.

    Do you have recommendations as to what I might do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Nebel View Post
    Do you have recommendations as to what I might do?
    I don't, but I'm a computer dummie using a Mac!

    I will reiterate what Comcast told me when I called and asked if they could possibly be limiting access to specific sites and not others:

    Quote Originally Posted by BMWCCA
    As I said in a previous post today, Comcast says there's no way it can be them if it's only one site. If they do limit an individual's speed or access to the web from abuse of bandwidth, it limits all sites. That's not the issue here. It can't be Firefox, either, since when it happens I can switch to Safari with the same lack of response.
    BTW, it's been working normally for me all day long. Go figure!

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    my "wild ass guess" (tho lots of past experience)

    is an issue with Comcasts DNS resolution server ......you mite
    get the IP of LHF and key that as a destination rather
    than the common name, thusly bypassing Comcast DNS server, or
    if on Windoze, you could mod the host file to make a permanent
    local DNS lookup. So key "198.80.11.57" in instead of http://www.audioheritage.org

    (I was working on my CCNA a couple yesrs back,but forgot most of it)

    bottom line...NOT LHF problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWCCA View Post
    I don't, but I'm a computer dummie using a Mac!

    I will reiterate what Comcast told me when I called and asked if they could possibly be limiting access to specific sites and not others:

    BTW, it's been working normally for me all day long. Go figure!
    I'm not sure that a telephone call to Comcast would yield much information unless they (1) performed actual tests (2) described the tests they performed (3) gave you set of conclusions and the reasoning behind them (4) the tests were independently verified.

    Here is the routing from a few well-known networks to AH - this looks reasonable although the AT&T-Sprint NYC peering might be a bit congested.


    route-views.oregon-ix.net>traceroute 198.80.11.57

    Tracing the route to 198.80.11.57

    1 128.223.51.2 [AS 3582] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
    2 128.223.3.8 [AS 3582] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
    3 207.98.64.65 [AS 3701] 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec
    4 207.98.64.162 [AS 3701] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
    5 207.98.64.10 [AS 3701] 4 msec 0 msec 4 msec
    6 207.98.64.137 [AS 3701] 4 msec 0 msec 4 msec
    7 63.211.200.245 [AS 3356] 8 msec 4 msec 4 msec
    8 4.68.105.68 [AS 3356] 8 msec 4 msec 8 msec
    9 4.68.63.34 [AS 3356] 8 msec 4 msec 8 msec
    10 144.232.9.151 [AS 1239] 4 msec 8 msec 8 msec
    11 144.232.20.104 [AS 1239] 28 msec 28 msec 24 msec
    12 144.232.20.140 [AS 1239] 68 msec 64 msec 64 msec
    13 144.232.1.190 [AS 1239] 68 msec 64 msec 64 msec
    14 160.81.226.14 [AS 1239] 68 msec 68 msec 72 msec
    15 198.80.11.57 [AS 3364] 68 msec 72 msec 72 msec

    AT&T Enhanced Network Services #########################

    Tracing the route to apollo.csdco.com (198.80.11.57)

    1 12.129.193.236 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
    2 mdf001c7613r0002-gig-12-2.lax1.attens.net (12.129.193.253) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
    3 gar4.la2ca.ip.att.net (12.122.255.69) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
    4 tbr2.la2ca.ip.att.net (12.123.222.94) [MPLS: Label 30707 Exp 0] 4 msec 0 msec 4 msec
    5 cr2.la2ca.ip.att.net (12.122.19.205) [MPLS: Label 16072 Exp 0] 4 msec 0 msec 4 msec
    6 ggr3.la2ca.ip.att.net (12.122.129.13) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
    7 192.205.33.190 4 msec 0 msec 4 msec
    8 sl-crs1-sj-0-8-0-2.sprintlink.net (144.232.18.57) 16 msec 16 msec 12 msec
    9 sl-crs1-stk-0-0-0-2.sprintlink.net (144.232.20.98) 20 msec 16 msec 16 msec
    10 sl-crs1-che-0-0-3-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.20.240) 56 msec 56 msec 56 msec
    11 sl-gw11-che-9-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.1.188) 56 msec 56 msec 56 msec
    12 sl-csd-10-0.sprintlink.net (160.81.226.14) 60 msec 60 msec 56 msec
    13 apollo.csdco.com (198.80.11.57) 56 msec 56 msec 56 msec

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    route-server>traceroute 198.80.11.57

    Type escape sequence to abort.
    Tracing the route to apollo.csdco.com (198.80.11.57)

    1 white-dwarf.cbbtier3.att.net (12.0.1.1) [AS 7018] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
    2 ar13.s10-0-0.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.124.182.17) 212 msec 0 msec 200 msec
    3 gbr7.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.122.84.162) [MPLS: Label 9609 Exp 0] 200 msec 200 msec 200 msec
    4 cr1.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.122.4.134) [MPLS: Label 16366 Exp 0] 200 msec 200 msec 204 msec
    5 ggr3.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.122.131.9) 200 msec 200 msec 0 msec
    6 sl-bb26-nyc-5-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.8.193) [AS 1239] 200 msec 208 msec 200 msec
    7 sl-bb20-nyc-15-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.13.10) [AS 1239] 404 msec 0 msec 200 msec
    8 sl-crs2-nyc-0-2-3-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.2.110) [AS 1239] 208 msec 200 msec 204 msec
    9 sl-crs2-chi-0-5-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.20.162) [AS 1239] 200 msec 200 msec 200 msec
    10 sl-crs1-che-0-0-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.20.161) [AS 1239] 200 msec 204 msec 200 msec
    11 sl-gw11-che-9-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.1.188) [AS 1239] 200 msec 204 msec 204 msec
    12 sl-csd-10-0.sprintlink.net (160.81.226.14) [AS 1239] 200 msec 204 msec 200 msec
    13 apollo.csdco.com (198.80.11.57) [AS 3364] 200 msec 200 msec 204 msec


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    route-server.savvis.net>trace 198.80.11.57

    Type escape sequence to abort.
    Tracing the route to apollo.csdco.com (198.80.11.57)

    1 bhr2-pos-11-1.santaclarasc8.savvis.net (209.1.169.178) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
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    3 pr1-ge-4-0-0.SanJoseEquinix.savvis.net (204.70.200.221) 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec
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    204.70.203.34 0 msec
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    5 bpr2-so-4-0-0.sanjoseequinix.savvis.net (208.175.172.170) 0 msec 4 msec 4 msec
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    8 POS7-0.GW4.DEN4.ALTER.NET (152.63.93.205) [AS 701] 40 msec 40 msec 40 msec
    9 csd-gw.customer.ALTER.NET (157.130.160.62) [AS 701] 68 msec 68 msec 68 msec
    10 apollo.csdco.com (198.80.11.57) [AS 3364] 68 msec 72 msec 68 msec
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    This is completely random, and makes no difference if I access with IP or domain. It works great for a bit then completely slows to a stop. If a page stops loading, hitting refresh a few times will often cause it to load quickly. Mostly I'm just sitting and staring at the red "Lansing" banner and nothing else, then a thread will slowly load one post at a time. Progress bar always just says: waiting for audioheritage.org.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post
    This is completely random, and makes no difference if I access with IP or domain. It works great for a bit then completely slows to a stop. If a page stops loading, hitting refresh a few times will often cause it to load quickly. Mostly I'm just sitting and staring at the red "Lansing" banner and nothing else, then a thread will slowly load one post at a time. Progress bar always just says: waiting for audioheritage.org.
    You might try connectingcolorado.com (use the quicksearch) and ancientmoney.org to see if those are slow at the same time as you observe that AH is slow.
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