Loudspeakercable - help is wanted

[Svanen]

Hi everyone

I am the happy owner of a set JBL 4341 loudspeakers in perfect condition (original blue) .

Here is my setup:

Krell KAV400xi - Sony X707ES - Audio Alchemy DTI+XDP+PS1+PS4.
Cables: VDH MCD501 orig. + VDH DM300MK2.

I have used a friends Cimber 4VS which I think is very good for the 4341. But he needs it now I have then used VDH Clearwater, but...it doesn't work.

Is here anyone who can me a good advice. Thanks!

[demon]

really good advice not to care much about it. cables have an easy job as far as i know.
if its thick enough to carry the load (...), if it feels good in your hands and is nice to look at -its perfect!

cheers,
mikey

[Svanen]

Hi Mikey

I can guarantee you there is a difference but thanks for your answer!

really good advice not to care much about it. cables have an easy job as far as i know.
if its thick enough to carry the load (...), if it feels good in your hands and is nice to look at -its perfect!

cheers,
mikey

[BMWCCA]

Y'all kill me with how seriously you take this stuff. My local hardware store carries all gauges, on the spool, in bulk. I buy it by the foot, or the reel, as I need it. Sure it's gotten expensive on the price of copper mostly, but it's still lamp cord. I attach my own Pomona plugs to fit JBL and Crown terminals. However, as has been postulated, I am a bottom feeder. Or, as we joke here amongst a group of us driving old BMWs when one of us actually buys one less than 15-years old, "You must be rich!"

[hjames]

Y'all kill me with how seriously you take this stuff.

D'oh!!
There you go, you had to light them up again ...!
betcha 10 spot that dog feller will be here soon!

(But remember, JBL didn't use any fancy wire INSIDE the speaker box!)

The prevailing answer seems to be:

If you can hear the difference, spend the money!

[Hoerninger]

but...it doesn't work.

Not clear - a break?

I go for thick - short - unexpensive,
briefly what BMWCCA has proposed.


[Another amp can minimize cable differences -
amp, cable, network and speakers represent a network with active and passive parts.
The interaction can be very obscure, I do not care very much . ]
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Peter

[Mr. Widget]

Is here anyone who can me a good advice. Thanks!

Wish I could help.

Good luck on your quest!


Widget

[1audiohack]

Drew Daniels.com, go to more links, open "Audio strictly for laughs"

Seriously if you scout around a bit, he has some pretty good advise, and I believe him to really be an authority on the subject.

[demon]

(But remember, JBL didn't use any fancy wire INSIDE the speaker box!)

(now, thats easy to change once the soldering gun is warmed up a bit)
(never look into a power amp if you are scared easily)


edit:

Drew Daniels.com, go to more links, open "Audio strictly for laughs"

this one (?): http://drewdaniels.com/badreligion.html


mikey

[demon]

sorry, my french is..

there!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solder
"a solder without a gun"

[Hoerninger]

sorry, my french is..

Not french but helpful:

www.dict.cc/
or
http://pda.leo.org/

These tools are working vice versa.

The second one is recommended for its quick and easy usage, it is meant for PDAs.
I am using the first one as there is a nice OS/2 frontend.
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Peter

[macaroonie]

Not as imune as you might think.

[Svanen]

Hello folks

I must say that I am surprised.

Am I the only one who can hear the difference

Yesterday me and a friend tested my Krell KAV400xi against his Mcintosh C42 and MC602. There was a difference of course, but...it was not so big as when we changed the loudspeakercables. Believe it or not.

Anyway thanks for the answers

[Hoerninger]

Am I the only one who can hear the difference

As far as I remember no one denied differences.

Please describe your differences in cables (diameter, completition, plugs ...) and the differences in your listening impressions!
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Peter

[Svanen]

Hi Peter

I will try to explain (but my english is not to good)

The Kimber 4VS makes a very big "picture", dynamic, speed and acceleration. Timbre, space, detail, intimacy..., it makes musical nuances and color with emotion, truth, and realism. In my ears (my friend who owns it agree). The VDH Clearwater is a much cheaper cable and you can hear it.

I was hoping that someone could tell me what (for them) is the best loudspeakercable to use with JBL.

As far as I remember no one denied differences.

Please describe your differences in cables (diameter, completition, plugs ...) and the differences in your listening impressions!
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Peter