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    this weekend i found that in the new "stereo magazin" (german) they tested the LS80 as new arrival.
    i just flew over the test (because i dont give so much about these magazines) but they said something like powerful, relaxed and room-filling, good for rockmusic and fun to listen to. everest heritage and horn-smalltalk (jbl = the one hornspecialist, who knew?), resume is that they are overall good, but lack a bit of finesse or something.
    absolutely what i expected, typical magazine review.
    reminding me of a wonderful film:
    "he who talks loud, saying nothing!"



    here you can skip thru the issue:
    http://www.stereo.de/aktuelleausgabe/index.html


    i will try to find a pair to listen to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium Dome View Post
    These nearly one-year-old models will officially arrive in the US in a week or two at CEDIA Expo.

    http://www.cepro.com/article/jbl_to_..._cedia_expo/K1

    I wouldn't expect to see them in stores before then.
    Lets hope they don't just go to Synthesis dealers, like the PS did. Other than Tweeters, for a short time, and Nebraska Furniture Mart, the PS wasn't found in stores. Tweeters only carried the PT800, no center, sub.
    Having read the info for the LS, they seem like a very good system.
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    I just talked to a JBL parts rep, and I asked about the LS series and the info he had is that they should be available in Oct, maybe late Sept.
    But when I asked about what dealers, he told me that had not been determined yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jblsound View Post
    I just talked to a JBL parts rep, and I asked about the LS series and the info he had is that they should be available in Oct, maybe late Sept.
    But when I asked about what dealers, he told me that had not been determined yet.
    How would these compare to the HLS series? Or the Studio L series? This seems like a much higher end speaker....

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaansloan View Post
    How would these compare to the HLS series? Or the Studio L series? This seems like a much higher end speaker....
    No way of knowing w/o hearing them.
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    The HLS Series was surprisingly good for its market segment, but it's still a fairly low-end product compared to current lines. I don't think there's a direct comparison that can be made.

    Despite the fact that the HLS Series has a horn-like design, I wouldn't consider them in the same design category as the LS Series.
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    I think the real question, at this point in time, is not how good the LS series will be, but where they will show up. At this time even Harman doesn't know, as what I was told yesterday.
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    They're going to show up here, that's for sure. Harman/JBL has more floor space than just about anyone else at CEDIA Expo, especially if you combine the two booths (580 and 670). Let's hope they're trying to generate some retail interest with this expensive presence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium Dome View Post
    They're going to show up here, that's for sure. Harman/JBL has more floor space than just about anyone else at CEDIA Expo, especially if you combine the two booths (580 and 670). Let's hope they're trying to generate some retail interest with this expensive presence.
    Ya, we know they will be at CEDIA. But retail that is currently the problem.
    Aside from the fact most people don't consider CC sales staff any better than BB staff, one thing is true. When CC sold JBLs they had many different series there, including the top of line 250Ti, in the "80's. I never saw any JBL lines other than the bottom one or two series @ BB.
    I would consider a move back to CC a big step up from BB.
    But if that level of product still holds true at CC today, I don't know.
    Eight years ago, when CC sold Infinity, they didn't have the Prelude MTS. I had to go down to LaserLand in San Jose to audition those. I just found out that LL has since closed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jblsound View Post
    I would consider a move back to CC a big step up from BB.
    Just how often do rats board a sinking ship?
    BusinessWeek: Circuit City Gives Up the Fight
    And even that merger failed when Blockbuster backed out. Here's a good view of the history of CC.

    This past year has not been a good one for them, or anyone for that matter. Unless you're Steve Jobs and Apple Computer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jblsound View Post
    I would consider a move back to CC a big step up from BB.
    Was just reading an article on how the detested DIVX nearly sank CC, they had greedy intentions and business never fully recovered after that fiasco. That alone almost killed the future of regular DVD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWCCA View Post
    Just how often do rats board a sinking ship?
    BusinessWeek: Circuit City Gives Up the Fight
    And even that merger failed when Blockbuster backed out. Here's a good view of the history of CC.

    This past year has not been a good one for them, or anyone for that matter. Unless you're Steve Jobs and Apple Computer.
    I was thinking more of what CC carried in speaker lines compared to BB. But now that you've mentioned their money problems, which I forgotten about, as I wrote that last post, I guess it wouldn't be too good of a move.
    Last year I went into a new CC, north of Reno. It looked like a big barn, compared to the first store in Reno, which has 4 or 5 separate audio rooms. The new store had almost nothing for speakers, which this post just reminded me of that fact.
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    CC has played it poorly on many fronts:

    Dumb, ineffective (and sometimes obnoxious) advertising
    Dumb, ineffective (and sometimes obnoxious) employees
    Dumb, ineffective (and sometimes obnoxious) displays
    Dumb, ineffective (and sometimes obnoxious) retail layouts
    Dumb, ineffective (and sometimes obnoxious) sales, purchase, and return policies

    So, I'm not thinking JBL will benefit by being there. OTOH, if JBL did return it would be an unexpected plus for CC, especially if Harman took a page out of Apple's book and handled the staff training itself. It's clear CC can't train its people.

    Nevertheless, going back to CC is not a good answer unless there are major changes; the same would hold true for BB. If you lie down with pigs, expect to get dirty (no offense to swine intended).

    The only way for Harman to penetrate is through a large general merchandise chain or two. It needs to hire someone who's smart in current retail (not the retail of the 60s, 70s, 80s, or 90s) and who can carve out a Harman-centric experience for general consumers.

    Screw the specialty stores. Screw the appliance big boxes. And screw the regional chains. Harman needs big penetration.

    The ES/LS Series combo in conjunction with current iPod/portable speaker brand identity could provide the product mix, and Harman brass would need to kiss some ass to get a nonexclusive co-marketing deal with a national retailer with hundreds or thousands of stores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium Dome View Post
    The only way for Harman to penetrate is through a large general merchandise chain or two...

    Screw the specialty stores. Screw the appliance big boxes. And screw the regional chains.
    Who? Macy's? Walmart?

    Thank god none of us are responsible for these decisions. It's gotta be tough. This whole market segment is hurting.

    I'd suggest you copy the best. Follow the Apple and Bose model. Don't copy either literally, but make it more like the Apple store than the Bose... Put an exciting Synthesis theater in the shop and place them in major retail areas to show the public just how bad the "Bose Experience" is and then send them off home with the JBL branded nano crap that people are inclined to buy. Hopefully a few will actually buy Array Series and other higher quality products from JBL.

    ...and don't forget turntables. Kids today are buying up turntables and $2 used records like crazy. Hire some young hip kids to show off just how good a turntable can sound through a decent system and they could start a whole new phenomenon... we could call it "Hi-Fi".


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    That's a great idea.
    Add a cafe and a performance space.
    You're selling a lifestyle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Widget View Post
    Who? Macy's? Walmart?

    Thank god none of us are responsible for these decisions. It's gotta be tough. This whole market segment is hurting.

    I'd suggest you copy the best. Follow the Apple and Bose model. Don't copy either literally, but make it more like the Apple store than the Bose... Put an exciting Synthesis theater in the shop and place them in major retail areas to show the public just how bad the "Bose Experience" is and then send them off home with the JBL branded nano crap that people are inclined to buy. Hopefully a few will actually buy Array Series and other higher quality products from JBL.

    ...and don't forget turntables. Kids today are buying up turntables and $2 used records like crazy. Hire some young hip kids to show off just how good a turntable can sound through a decent system and they could start a whole new phenomenon... we could call it "Hi-Fi".


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