L65 JUBAL vs XPL 200.

[venus]

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who's the best?
best regards
marco

[Titanium Dome]

I'll take the bait one time.

XPL200 is better in every way that matters to me.
Better high frequency
Better midrange
Better midbass
More articulate and musical bass
Better cabinet design
Better cabinet tuning
Better crossover

BUT, no glass tops and no cool-looking tweeters (which also doubled as train signals, traffic sensors, and navigation devices)

[Titanium Dome]

BTW, this thread should be moved to the correct location. It's clearly not a consumer amp thread.

Perhaps a moderator can do this? Thanks.

[venus]

BTW, this thread should be moved to the correct location. It's clearly not a consumer amp thread.

Perhaps a moderator can do this? Thanks.

ok!excuse me!
best regards
marco

[johnaec]

I've had both, and the XPL200 definitely has the L65 beat in several areas, especially the driver compliment.

John

[Regis]

I've had both as well and I agree with John. The L-65 was my first set of speakers that I purchased 30 years ago. While I have a warm and fuzzy nostalgia for the L-65's, the XPL-200's outperform them in every way.

[Mr. Widget]

BTW, this thread should be moved to the correct location. It's clearly not a consumer amp thread.

Perhaps a moderator can do this? Thanks.

Just saw this thread and moved it and merged it with the second thread that Venus started in the correct place.

Hey Dome, in your list of the important differences you forgot to mention that the XPL 200 is also better because it doesn't have any of that pesky real wood veneer.


Widget

[Titanium Dome]

Just saw this thread and moved it.

Hey Dome, in your list of the important differences you forgot to mention that the XPL 200 is also better because it doesn't have any of that pesky real wood veneer.


Widget

Thanks for moving the errant thread, and thanks for giving me the opening to remind you that many XPL200s DID have real veneer, as evidenced in my restoration thread here:

http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...t=XPL200+rehab

Plus it had that nifty Neoprene® baffle covering.

Still, it's not a great, honking, rectangular box like a Jubal, so I'll give you that.

[Mr. Widget]

Still, it's not a great, honking, rectangular box like a Jubal, so I'll give you that.

I have to admit, I have never seen a pair of XPL anythings in person. I was going from memory and the fact that you liked them...

But seriously, based on the anecdotal evidence out there and what I know about the various drivers etc., I would have to agree with your assessment in your comparison between the Jubal and the XPL 200. I am sure you have posted this somewhere, but how do the XPL 200s compare with your Performance Series? I don't mean which is better, but rather, in what ways are they different.


Widget

[slxrti]

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who's the best?
best regards
marco

I never heard the xpl200, but I did own a pair of Jubal.

"All high's no low and it ain't no Bose's, so it must be a JUBAL!!!!!"

slxrti

[Audiobeer]

Must have been your setup, the highs & the lows were over the top in my room. I remember them as being outstanding Rock & Roll speakers that all my friends wanted to hear turned up in the late 70s.

[brad347]

I like my Jubals, mine are the "A" revision with the 122a woofers and they have bass in spades. In fact, the first thing I did when I hooked them up was double-check to make sure I didn't have the "loudness" switch on my amplifier... that's almost what it sounded like.

One thing I've found as I've been dialing my Jubals in is that, contrary to their function as furniture, they benefit (in my room anyway) from being up off the floor a few inches. I got some black stone slabs intended for paving and put them under mine, it raised them up off the floor about 2 inches.

Now they are much closer to what I want, they're decoupled from the hollow hardwood floor a bit, and are a bit closer to the ballpark of head-level in a sitting position. The 40 degree vertical dispersion characteristic of the 077 tweeter means that they really like to be at least somewhat close to level with your ears. If I sit on the floor they sound gorgeous

But now that I've got them off the floor a couple of inches, they sound nice on the couch, too.

[brutal]

You XPL owners are just trying to drive down the price of Jubals and drive up the price of XPL's so you can trade up. LOL j/k

[4313B]

The guys who design these loudspeakers probably prefer to imagine that they are moving forward and continuously gaining expertise rather than moving backwards designing stuff that actually sounds worse than what they designed when they first started out 30 plus years ago.

[grumpy]

Especially in regard to this thread title's comparison, I'd agree.

There is also skill and expertise required to design to a price point.

Current day dollar value for last known Jubal date/price?

Answer: 1979 - $625/each, 2007 - $1966/each
( http://www.westegg.com/inflation/ )

How much were S4600's targeted for? ~$4300/pair plus shipping to Japan and back?