hmmm- would have to say 2012 h. More than any other speaker makes me feel like I am listening to live music. Close second... 2241h. I'm "new school" on woofers yo...
Will
hmmm- would have to say 2012 h. More than any other speaker makes me feel like I am listening to live music. Close second... 2241h. I'm "new school" on woofers yo...
Will
The first JBL I heard was a D130 in a Karlson cab, only one, wired as a center between the amps two hots. I was hooked! I don't even remember what the stereo pair was in that setup, or who's it was, all I remember is the JBL sound... Of course I remember the show the first time I heard a 2440, and another when I heard a 2345 for the first time, and the club that had 2495s and 2402's. Still, I think the 2405 is my favorite, combined with a 2420/2307/2308, 2123 mid and a couple pair of 2225's, I'm happy...
Mike Scott in SJ, CA
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Mike Scott in SJ, CA
Drive 'em to the Xmax!
I vote for 2450. 2450 in a tractrix horn and you will not need a HF driver. I have tried all except for the cat eye and they simple add more problem than benifits if you re-evaluate your decisions after a week. If your listen distance is like mine approx 12 feet.
With a 2440 or 2441 you will need a treble unit though.
Harryup´s system sound very very nice !
I would love to try the JBL 2451 in your tractrix or, if you would get your hands on the 475nd, it has better looks
Two of my favorite JBL speakers were designed by Bill Burton before Ed May came on board - the D123 and the 075.
I don't even remember the name or model of my favorite JBL system; it was a little bigger than the typical bookshelf cabinet, and it had an LE14 and an LE85 (on a 90 degree short horn). Can't remember if it was a straight LE14 or the LE14 with the center tweeter. It was the nicest sounding JBL system I've ever heard.
I had a pair of Hartsfield with Lowthers in them that sounded pretty nice. And I had a Metragon with Janzen electrostatics that really sounded sweet.
There are a lot of JBL drivers I've yet to hear. But I really like the 112A/H mainly from an historical perspective. That 8" midbass is the whole reason JBL sold any L212s. The engineering really went into the concept of the L212- but it still must have been a huge leap of faith to be the first company to introduce a sub/sat- let alone the audacity to beg $5K for a pair. The solution? Make your midbass pump all the way down to 70Hz and do it perfectly; You leave little for the sub to do (with regard to frequency). The 112A/H is a super fine overmade work of art (IMO).
I have to say the 077. I could not believe how sharp it was when I first heard my L65s.
Now, at the other end of the spectrum, I would love to hear a 1500 sub.
had L25,L36,L40,L120,L300,AquariusIV(2),S1,4408 have L65,L100,L222,DorianS12,B380
LE14H-1 they even look cool
whenever i see a turtle crossing the road i always stop, get out of my car and help it.
I would have to say the 2245H. To me these continue to be one of my favorite drivers. I do miss that little extra ultra low end they produce when loaded properly aka 4345's. The dual 2235's are nice but those 18"s are something else.
Ken
I can't help but think that the "lacking" (if you can call it that) of the dual 2235's in the Westlakes is due to 2 separate drivers fighting eachother for control of one shared sub chamber. I imagine 2 2245's in one chamber would react the same way. I'm working towards moving the Westlakes out and the SOTA's in for comparisons. The SOTA's have dedicated chambers for each 2235 and therefore I expect the speed an accuracy of the bottom end to be noticeably improved.
NRT-
Couldn't agree more. If one woofer has the slightest increase in efficiency*- it will react a split second faster and suck the back of the cone of the more inefficient one. Thus, it becomes a smear of a passive radiator situation. I think that's the only westie flaw (I can see) except the price...
Dedicated enclosures will result in increased focus. It has to.
I assume the 4350 has the similar problem in design, thus is why people that have owned both a 4350, and 4345 claim the 4345 has more "accurate" bass performance. That's consistant with my theory.
* No two woofers are EXACTLY the same. As one begins to take the slightest lead- it will change the way the other one wears. After time- the differences in efficiency will become more and more apparent.
Gee... haven't I been harping on that like, let's see, forever now.
LOL. Hey-I didn't know! It does make perfect sense. That's why we (JBL folks) have you and Westlake doesn't!!!Originally Posted by Giskard
I always use...(always is a big word)... I almost always use dual woofers in separate chambers. When I built my 4355 clones, the 2235Hs were in separate 5 cu ft chambers... they still didn't have the sound of a 2245. ...and the 2245 doesn't have the sound of a Sub1500....Originally Posted by norealtalent
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