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    DEQ2496 UltraCurve Pro RTA/EQ Club

    O.K., who'd got 'em?

    Toddalin, Skywave-Rider, Hamilton, Jackgiff, Infredible, Zilch. Who else?

    [Gaseous discharge RULEZ! ]

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    That's the 1/6 octave display, right? (Only 1/3 octave RTA/display stuff here - DBX, Rane, Alesis), though I do have a 1/6 octave White digital EQ and a couple channels of JBL, (Rane), 1/6 octave LF graphic EQ...

    John

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    Your White has higher resolution EQ than us, but we've got parametrics, as well. RTA is 1/6 octave, yes.

    We WILL be accepting associate members.

    [Once we start collecting dues.... ]

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    I got one just two days ago. So far I've only done some manual tinkering in the GEQ based on earlier in room measurements. Seems to do what I want it to do!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilch View Post
    O.K., who'd got 'em?

    Toddalin, Skywave-Rider, Hamilton, Jackgiff, Infredible, Zilch. Who else?

    [Gaseous discharge RULEZ! ]
    Looks like the street price is around $250 -
    is that a fair approximation?
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    £193.99p at Digital Village
    http://www.dv247.com/invt/froogle/4629/

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBL 4645 View Post
    £193.99p at Digital Village
    http://www.dv247.com/invt/froogle/4629/
    Ok - so the Exchange rate website http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi shows me

    193.99 GBP = 385.976 USD


    so NO, that doesn't seem to be the going US Street price.
    Looks like I can buy one from a number of stores with eBay shops for around $250,
    so $385 sounds like WAY too much money for it!
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    Paid $135 for mine on the 'Bay and it included the Behringer microphone and a case for the mic.

    Typically they go for between $100-$150 on the 'Bay for "like new" ones. I let a lot go with a top bid price of $125 (that went just over that), but figured that $135 w/mic was a better deal.

    I think that Grumpy (Dave) may also have one (or access to one).

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    I think that Grumpy (Dave) may also have one (or access to one).
    Yep, I -did- have access to one... used it as part of an industrial noise simulator and
    measurement system.

    Some may find that funny. It worked well enough for the intended tests/application.
    A computer-based GUI would have been helpful, but I can't complain much given
    the price and the alternatives.

    -grumpy

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    My DEQ2496 came today. Anxious to try it out. Does anyone know if the mic input is specifically compensated for their ECM8000 measurement mic? I have about 7 of the ECM8000's and a pair of Audix TR-40 measurement mics that I can use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harvey Gerst View Post
    My DEQ2496 came today. Anxious to try it out. Does anyone know if the mic input is specifically compensated for their ECM8000 measurement mic? I have about 7 of the ECM8000's and a pair of Audix TR-40 measurement mics that I can use.
    According to what Dave (Grumpy) told me, the ECM8000 (that I also use), shows a slightly exadurated upper region such that the highs are not quite what they appear. Dave said that this (along with its correction) has been documented here on the LH forum, but I've never searched for it.

    To my ear, I like the highs rolled off slightly so I figure if I can get it flat, I actually have a slight roll-off.

    BTW, you need to remember to set the voltage on the eq for the ECM8000. As I recall, I never did see that in the instructions (per se for the ECM8000 though there is mention of it) and scratched my head a couple times. Documentation with the eq and mic is poor at best.

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    What I can tell you with some certainty, is that the spec sheet:
    http://www.behringerdownload.de/ECM8...00_C_Specs.pdf
    really doesn't give you much (e.g., tolerances) other than the overall
    shape of a typical response curve. I made several measurements to
    compare a calibrated Earthworks mic with one particular example of the
    ECM8000, and found the resulting difference curve to match the shape
    (if not the exact levels) of the plot in the mfg. spec sheet. The ECM I
    tested had a slight rise, starting at 1KHz, broadly peaked at 10KHz (+3dB
    from "flat"), and then dropped off (~0dB rel at 20KHz, with the drop off
    continuing to at least 30KHz).

    I would be -very- surprised if they made any attempt to compensate
    for the ECM8000 in the DEQ2496.

    -grumpy

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddalin View Post
    Paid $135 for mine on the 'Bay and it included the Behringer microphone and a case for the mic.

    Typically they go for between $100-$150 on the 'Bay for "like new" ones. I let a lot go with a top bid price of $125 (that went just over that), but figured that $135 w/mic was a better deal.

    I think that Grumpy (Dave) may also have one (or access to one).

    Mate, that’s a good bit of bargain hunting, I’d say you got yourself a deal there.


    Quote Originally Posted by hjames View Post
    Ok - so the Exchange rate website http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi shows me

    193.99 GBP = 385.976 USD


    so NO, that doesn't seem to be the going US Street price.
    Looks like I can buy one from a number of stores with eBay shops for around $250,
    so $385 sounds like WAY too much money for it!
    LOL I don’t put a lot of stock in it. Let’s no spilt hairs over it, that’s the lowest UK price, haven’t used Google product to track down the lowest prices in the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilch View Post
    O.K., who'd got 'em?

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    Yes.

    Useful as a DAC too.

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    I now have 2.
    And they both work.
    Do I get 2 votes when the DEQ Crew convenes?

    I think I like it now.

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