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    Amp for 4301

    Finally got a pair of 4301 (so cute!). What reasonably priced amp would be good for driving these for CD playing in my office?

    I was thinking of a 30w solid state amp I build from a kit.

    Ideas?
    had L25,L36,L40,L120,L300,AquariusIV(2),S1,4408 have L65,L100,L222,DorianS12,B380

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    Sounds good to me. I use a pair or 4208 with Urei 6211 amps. The amps are 40 watts and they are more than adequate and sound good as well.

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    Don, in the shop (I need to post some pictures on that part of the forum...) I use an old Pioneer SX-9100 integrated amp on my 4301B's - I think the amp is 65w per channel. It does really, well.

    At the office, where after oodles of years I finally tagged into a room with a door , I've been running a pair of the 4301B's with an Onkyo 8190 (85w) integrated amp, but don't need all it's features, so I'm switching over to the Yamaha AX-497 (also 85w).

    These are great cabinets with good sensitivity, and great response. The bass, in particular, will surprise you...
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    I currently have a JBL Creature and the guy in the next office says the bass is too much. I figure when he sees the 4301 and, perhaps a small tube amp with some kind of outboard EQ, he will have a coronary.
    had L25,L36,L40,L120,L300,AquariusIV(2),S1,4408 have L65,L100,L222,DorianS12,B380

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    Quote Originally Posted by boputnam View Post
    I've been running a pair of the 4301B's with an Onkyo 8190 (85w) integrated amp, but don't need all it's features, so I'm switching over to the Yamaha AX-497 (also 85w).
    Don't loose that Onkyo to fast... you may discover that it sounded better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Widget View Post
    Don't loose that Onkyo to fast... you may discover that it sounded better.
    Yea, but I think I went through that. They do sound different - very. Totally different sound, with the Yamaha having a (relatively) modestly emphasized high end. It is more clear. The bass response seems "tighter". Channel separation seems better, although this could be an artifact of the increased definition in the high-end.

    The Onkyo is circa 1980. It has all sorts of functionality I don't use - two external tape loops, switchable phono preamps, etc. My application is for simplest consumer use; no TV interface.

    You certainly run into more consumer gear than I do. So, you're experience is the Yamaha is not preferred...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Finally got a pair of 4301 (so cute!). What reasonably priced amp would be good for driving these for CD playing in my office?

    I was thinking of a 30w solid state amp I build from a kit.

    Ideas?
    How about a nice little 6215 or a Crown D-75?

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    Crown D-45 OK, too?
    had L25,L36,L40,L120,L300,AquariusIV(2),S1,4408 have L65,L100,L222,DorianS12,B380

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    I can get around "stupid loud" with my 75 on ADS L810's before it clips. This is in my family room basement.

    I don't think I've seen a D45. Read about it, yes.

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    I've noted it before but is seems appropriate again here: Prices for the Crown D-75/A are absurdly high on Ebay. Seldom do they go for less than $170 and those usually aren't very nice. They often fetch $300 or more. Others here suggest it's the price you pay for one-rack-unit-size convenience. If space is not your issue, you can find the D-150A-II or PS-200 for as little as $100. Sometimes even a PS-400 for cheap. I'm listening to my L20Ts hooked to a PS-400 I paid just over $100 for on Ebay; clean and quiet. I'd buy ten more at that price before I'd pay $300 for a D-75. Nice amp but, unless you're carrying it to work everyday, go for its larger brothers. You can never have too much power.

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    4301b Amplifier

    My second system 4301B speakers are powered by a Yamaha mx-2000 130X2 amplifier and they sound sweet. Most of the time the amp is on 1/4 and never gets much over 1/3 volume with not a hint of distortion from the 4301B. Local JBL tech said the pro speakers could easly handle 3x their power rateing.

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    I have two of the little Carver TFM-6CB amps. They are a 1U rack design and they have adustable input gain (so you can plug them directly into a signal souce and not need a preamp). I've had one for 15 years and the other for 5 - no issues whatsoever and they sound great. They are 65w/channel and the "B" model is bridegable. Can't beat them for $100 on ebay....

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    If you can locate one of these old SONY Pulse Modulation power supply amps you'll have more than your fair share of incredibly distortion free amplification - and they won't crush your shelf either!
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