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    Crossroads Guitar Festival

    Forgive me if this is old news, but I finally fell out from under my rock when I came home from work tonight and caught some of the 2007 Crossroads Guitar Festival on PBS HDTV. Two things stood way, way out to me.

    I saw Steve Winwood playing guitar incredibly well in Chicago in the (sixties?) with Blind Faith. He hasn't lost a step and he blew Clapton off the stage with his talent. He was even more exciting than Derek Trucks.

    And my man, Jeff Beck. Introducing me to...Tal Wilkenfeld. Have you seen/heard this woman? Never mind that she looks about fourteen. She is the most fun bass player to hear/watch since Jaco. Perhaps she plays too much, but Jeff was digging it too. That anyone her age could toe to toe in sync with the best living electric guitarist is amazing, but they were good together.
    Try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJGCOq89a2o and this http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-au&bran...om=imbot_en-au
    From her album:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4zO6...eature=related
    Is the sound any good on the DVD? I read it came out on the 20th of this month.

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    I saw that tonight, too. I think I'm hitting Best Buy tomorrow ($19.95 in stock). I have the previous Crossroads DVD set and the sound is great (Johnny Lang is amazing on it as is John Mayer, incredibly). But I'm only into 2-channel. I heard it was shot in HD so the picture should be good. My middle daughter was brought up listening to Winwood (the others have their own taste!) so she'll be blown away. I sent her a UTube link to "Had to Cry Today". Trucks was quite good in his set with his wife and his band. Watch his hands. It's players like Trucks that caused me to give up guitar...

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    I saw what was played on PBS tonight.

    I wouldn't say Steve Winwood blew Clapton off the stage. I would say he played very well some material that seemed rather tried and true. And I would also say that Clapton didn't do anything exceptional in the bits that were shown tonight.

    Tal was a surprise and a treat to watch. I think that delight is genuine.

    As for Jeff Beck--I sat through most of his ????? before I realized he was never going to play any music, and that from beginning to end it was going to be simply a series of loosely strung together tricks-done-with-guitar. It was such an excruciatingly pretentious bore. I've been hanging onto a mint copy of BeckOla in hopes that something would happen to help me see what I was missing, but what I saw tonight confirms me in my first impression. I'm sure his friends are hoping he'll get back to basics at some point.

    I enjoyed the John Mayer song "Gravity" enormously. He is a tremendous talent and is maturing personally very well indeed. I will be looking for some CD's by him.

    You just might see me at the Best Buy looking for this DVD.

    David

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    Grammy Award®-winning guitar superstar Eric Clapton once again teams up with fellow "guitar gods" to present another Crossroads Guitar Festival, this time from Chicago, America's blues capital. Like its predecessor, the concert was a benefit for Clapton's Crossroads Centre in Antigua, a drug and alcohol education and treatment facility. "The Crossroads Festival is the realization of a dream for me, to gather a group of amazingly talented musicians to perform on one stage," says Clapton, who remains on stage virtually throughout the entire concert. "The Crossroads performers are all musicians I admire and respect." Hosted by comedian and actor Bill Murray, the program features a once-in-a-lifetime gathering of guitar superstars, including Jeff Beck, Robert Cray, Sheryl Crow, Vince Gill, Buddy Guy, B.B. King, Los Lobos, John Mayer, Willie Nelson, Robbie Robertson, Hubert Sumlin, Jimmie Vaughan, Johnny Winter, Steve Winwood, and more.

    Eric Clapton's autobiography, CLAPTON THE AUTOBIOGRAPHY, was released in October 2007, and here's what he writes about first encountering blues music:

    "It's very difficult to explain the effect the first blues record I heard had on me, except to say that I recognized it immediately. It was as if I were being reintroduced to something that I already knew, maybe from another, earlier life. For me there is something primitively soothing about this music, and it went straight to my nervous system, making me feel ten feet tall. This was the feeling I had when I first heard the Sonny Terry and Brownie McGhee song on Uncle Mac, and the same thing happened when I first heard Big Bill Broonzy."

    Big Bill Broonzy, Memphis Minnie, and Tampa Red were among the early blues artists who migrated from the South to Chicago and began performing and recording in the city before World War II. Discover more about the events and individuals who helped make Chicago a mecca for the blues, especially during the 1950s, in the essay by contributor Robert Santelli. Watch excerpts of "Who Do You Love?," "Anyday," and "Dear Mr. Fantasy," and browse photos from the festival in the Multimedia Presentation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ducatista47 View Post
    And my man, Jeff Beck. Introducing me to...Tal Wilkenfeld. Have you seen/heard this woman? Never mind that she looks about fourteen. She is the most fun bass player to hear/watch since Jaco. Perhaps she plays too much, but Jeff was digging it too. That anyone her age could toe to toe in sync with the best living electric guitarist is amazing, but they were good together.
    Well, Jeff is an acquired taste, to saw the least. He's gotten bored with standard technique and now does things that pique his interest. Or not at all...

    I appreciate the way he has been giving young female players a venue (first Jennifer Batten, now Tal). And now, about Tal:
    A. She's simply great. Now playing behind Chic Corea. Gotta have her chops up for that.
    B. She's cute. (It doesn't hurt)
    C. She's got that guitar face, "take that!" attitude thing.
    D. She's clearly enjoying herself.

    What could be more fun?

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    I had it set for my DVR and then checked it out in HD, doesn't show here till next week in HD.
    I prefer my 1st time of hearing something I like in the best available environment. For me it is my system (best of everybody I know ) so I will wait till next week and then decide that I will buy it

    Any opinions on which of the 2 was a more enjoyable show, the original or this ?

    Mark

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    I saw Jeff Beck when he toured with Stevie Ray back in the late 80's. I was incredibly excited to see him as "Blow by Blow" and "Wired" were two incredibly important albums for me while I was growing up. They introduced me to a new world of instrumental jazz-fusion that I didn't know existed.

    Words can't describe how much he sucked at that show. He decided to tour with a drummer and a keyboard player - no bass. This isn't necessarily a big deal as I play both bass and keys myself and can usually lay down a decent bass line on keys (even better with pedals). But there was literally no bass at all - just a wall of noise with no foundation. I felt sorry for him 2 songs in, as Stevie Ray had flat out rocked the crowd. They (and I) had no idea what to make of this strange bass-less noise-fest.

    Most artists are able to play their old tunes as well as the new ones. This allows old and new fans to find some common ground during live shows. Beck sorely needs to learn this lesson. I still love listening to "Wired" but I'm never going to waste my time seeing him again...


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    As for Jeff Beck--I sat through most of his ????? before I realized he was never going to play any music, and that from beginning to end it was going to be simply a series of loosely strung together tricks-done-with-guitar. It was such an excruciatingly pretentious bore. I've been hanging onto a mint copy of BeckOla in hopes that something would happen to help me see what I was missing, but what I saw tonight confirms me in my first impression. I'm sure his friends are hoping he'll get back to basics at some point. Meanwhile my copy of BeckOla is available for the first $10 donation to LHF. PM me a copy of your receipt and your address.

    I enjoyed the John Mayer song "Gravity" enormously. He is a tremendous talent and is maturing personally very well indeed. I will be looking for some CD's by him.

    You just might see me at the Best Buy looking for this DVD.

    David

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    Quote Originally Posted by speakerdave View Post
    I enjoyed the John Mayer song "Gravity" enormously. He is a tremendous talent and is maturing personally very well indeed. I will be looking for some CD's by him.

    You just might see me at the Best Buy looking for this DVD.
    When you get his "Continuum", arguably his best work, please let me know why the AE decided to take a good recording and give it the sound of an over-driven car stereo. Is it to make it sound like someone over-driving their car stereo when they play it in their car? I enjoy it in the car, but at home on a decent system it's aggravating to hear intentional distortion apparently keyed to the kick-drum. I haven't listened to it in a while to remember when or where it occurs, but you'll figure it out. He was doing something similar with his voice on the Crossroads program. Don't know if that was on purpose or not.

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    Well, I sure didn't mean to start something. First, I missed a word of explanation or two. In Blind Faith's Chicago gig, Winwood was playing keys for a while while Clapton was the only guitarist. Then Steve switched to strings and did blow Eric off the stage. I know that Clapton has repeatedly admitted that he was hobbled by drugs 24/7 for decades at a time, including that era. Even so, sometimes you are listening to a fine musician and then someone else plays and seven notes later it is clear the second player has more god-given talent. Eric has never claimed to be as talented as some of his famous peers; he does not personally think he is. What he is, is one of the most accomplished musicians of the popular era, no small feat. He has said than he realized early in the game that he could never play like some of the figures he admires. Like what Pete Townsend says about himself.

    Jeff Beck probably is the only electric guitarist still playing who a) has been considered great and b) can still play at the top of his form and sometimes does. That would be electric, not amplified guitarist. Like Jimi Hendrix or Harvey Mandel, not like Jim Hall. By the way, I witnessed a great gig about 1976 in Peoria. Jeff's problem with playing/not playing is not that he hates music. He has always hated to participate in the music business, perhaps an extreme example. He even finds trying to repair antique cars less frustrating. ("At least I can throw the wrench.") I can tell that he could still play every note he ever played, but getting him to do so would be tough; it no longer motivates him. I think Carlos Santana could still be in top form too, but he has found that playing with popular vocalists requires a lot of laying back. To each his own, they are after all their own lives to live.

    For what it's worth, it seems that all three of the "Gods" of guitar from Surrey have always been uncomfortable or worse with the hyperbole and acclaim bestowed on them by press and fans. So I should stop talking about Jeff Beck in those terms for his sake. I promise not to say it again!

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    Jeff Beck's problem

    Jeff Beck's only problem is musical genius. His grasp of rhythm, feel, and harmony and harmonics is way beyond us mere mortals.

    I saw him up close and personal at the Universal Amphitheater a few years ago....also saw him at the LA Sports Arena with SRV.

    The acoustics at the Sports Arena are as good as any high school gym.

    Universal was awesome. The man speaks though his guitar. There is a reason that every modern day guitarist from the last 40 years idolizes him.

    Even Jimi Hendrix learned from Beck....and Beck can smoke Clapton and Page on any given day...but Clapton can sing with his voice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ducatista47 View Post
    For what it's worth, it seems that all three of the "Gods" of guitar from Surrey have always been uncomfortable or worse with the hyperbole and acclaim bestowed on them by press and fans. So I should stop talking about Jeff Beck in those terms for his sake. I promise not to say it again!
    Yeah, they're guitar players... it's probably best to put that fact in context.

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    His live album "Trio" is even worse - I made better bootlegs with a cassette walkman 20 years ago. The man needs to hang with better engineers - period !

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWCCA View Post
    When you get his "Continuum", arguably his best work, please let me know why the AE decided to take a good recording and give it the sound of an over-driven car stereo. Is it to make it sound like someone over-driving their car stereo when they play it in their car? I enjoy it in the car, but at home on a decent system it's aggravating to hear intentional distortion apparently keyed to the kick-drum. I haven't listened to it in a while to remember when or where it occurs, but you'll figure it out. He was doing something similar with his voice on the Crossroads program. Don't know if that was on purpose or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgewound View Post
    Jeff Beck's only problem is musical genius. His grasp of rhythm, feel, and harmony and harmonics is way beyond us mere mortals. . . .
    Like I said, maybe I'm missing something.

    Quote Originally Posted by edgewound View Post
    . . . . There is a reason that every modern day guitarist from the last 40 years idolizes him.
    . . . .
    Maybe that's who he's playing for. His technical mastery is certainly unmistakable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ducatista47 View Post
    Well, I sure didn't mean to start something. . . .
    You didn't; I thought I was the one that had started something. Anyway, I thought I'd come back here and find I'd been run over by a train. I'm surprised at the degree of agreement. Evidently it's a really-like-him-(his playing)-alot or really-not-like-him-very-much-at-all kind of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jblnut View Post
    His live album "Trio" is even worse - I made better bootlegs with a cassette walkman 20 years ago. The man needs to hang with better engineers - period !
    I recall hesitating to buy that just on the packaging alone. A lot of money for something in a cardboard folder. I played it once and hated it. Figured I'd go back and try it again and hated it even more. Haven't touched it since and don't even know where I threw it. It ain't in with my other CDs. Trash? That would be fitting.

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