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    Thumbs up Mild large wave deep and low to 25Hz! In Surf's Up!

    Mild large wave deep and low to 25Hz!

    The rolling low waves of sound moving towards me, with deep rumbling force down to 25Hz 40Hz and 62Hz that I could see all interacting at the same time on the RTA. Sound pressure level was up to 105dbc on the LFE.1 only with sub bass extension on the second sub bass from the centre channel adding onto the LFE.1 giving a total in-room 107dbc.


    When the penguin surfers race towards the waves during the films final moments of the surfing competition, a nice beauty just starts rolling and getting bigger in size as well as sound too, then 6 surfing penguins go down out of 24 leaving only 18 left.



    It starts at 62m:19s and its on centre channel and LFE.1 only, you’d never be able to tell where its coming from because its omni-directional it was just rumbling the floor and my body and ears, with a slow mild thundering attack, this was a mild wave, the BIG ONE comes later in the next post!





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    Smile Howard the Duck coming to region 2 DVD February 18th 2008


    18th of February 2008 sees the region 2 DVD realise of Howard the Duck, wow its about time.

    -One million watts of power! Power!
    -Yes sir how about some coffee?

    Hope it’s the 70mm (Road Show) six-track Dolby stereo experience because the mix sounded wonderful on Hi-Fi stereo VHS years ago, okay so there was a bit of low level noise on the VHS, still I have fond memories of this even though it’s a turkey or Duck, its still good for the JBL.

    This played in a few THX sound system cinemas in the US when it was realised, I bet that sounded great DEEP LOW END!


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    Thumbs up Passenger 57 region 2 DVD with JBL




    (Wesley Snipes) is back in action with this fast paced thriller, as FAA John Cutter
    who’s just picked the wrong plane, mastermind terrorist Charles Rane played by (Bruce Payne) is being escorted by federal agents, whilst in flight the plane is hijacked, and his demands are rather simple, blunt and to the point. While Cutter is in the toilet he overhears the commotion and springs into action, guns blaze while plane pipits and rocks around with terrified scamming passengers.




    The plane eventually lands on a small airfield where negotiations for fuel for passengers, Cutter knows it’s a trap to elude authorities, while he gets away Scott free.



    Image isn’t too bad for this region 2 DVD farmed at 2.35:1 scope colours look rich and bold contrast and brightness with daylight scenes where natural and dark shadows where easy to see on the good ole CRT screen.

    Sound opening credits was neatly done with plenty of instrumental ping ponging form left and right, I didn’t have much time as I would like to do a second viewing and analyze the mix thoroughly, maybe at a much later date. It was good on the JBL control 5 and 1 LCR fronts imaging was (loud and clear) but that’s down to mixing skills.

    Surrounds appeared to be stereo since this was realised around 1992, I did mange to listen to the cabin sound of whooshing air conducting moving around, but that was monaural, when I pressed the centre back mode on the Pioneer VSP-200 I noticed the sound dropping towards the centre back surrounds. I then depressed the pro-logic mode and redirected the sound back to just plain sidewall surrounds.

    The THX circuitry often makes monaural sound on the surrounds swoosh from side to side, due to right channels (THX Adaptive Decorrelation). When it detects stereo it switches off, something like that and when a monaural sound is detected it turns back on.http://www.thx.com/technologies/decorrel.html

    I’m not sure if anyone else has this film if you do can you check out the (dialogue speech) has its not the first nor the last time, but it was detected on screen left and right channels, a few db to the left front, it should be (isolated and anchored) to the centre without any distractions. It could be intentional as this has cropped up in films like Cocoon (1986) Apollo 13 (1995) to name a few.

    LFE.1 was used sparingly throughout and it’s like I say, it a very (unpredictable channel) that can come active at moment the loudness on one of few explosions; most of the bass was covered over LCR with mild amounts of it on the surrounds, but the JBL 4645 handled it like its handled many action films before it, over the past 9 years, flawlessly.



    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105104/

    That’s the last JBL DVD review I’ll be doing for at least while now, until I’m settled in my new home, I don’t know I’m going to do the next one, because I plan to keep most of the audio equipment in a separate room along with the pc, to reduce clutter, so I guess I might have to modify the SPL db metre with an extension lead that leads to the bedroom along with the RTA microphone in the home cinema room, otherwise I’ll be walking from room to room.

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    in grampa simpson voice "He wathces a lot of movies".......and then reports his findings to us.
    Ashley, you the man! Thanks dude, when I am ready to start thinking/planing a HT system I will definitely be in touch.
    Did you see me and you and everyone we know? funky movie, nice soundtrack.
    All the best my friend did you move already or are you in the process of doing so, hope it goes smoothly, I loathe moving
    Just Play Music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikebake View Post
    What do you do for a living?
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    Too much time, on my hands, I know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krunchy View Post
    in grampa simpson voice "He wathces a lot of movies".......and then reports his findings to us.
    Ashley, you the man! Thanks dude, when I am ready to start thinking/planing a HT system I will definitely be in touch.
    Did you see me and you and everyone we know? funky movie, nice soundtrack.
    All the best my friend did you move already or are you in the process of doing so, hope it goes smoothly, I loathe moving
    Cheers mate a JBL loudspeaker should be a universal thing to enjoy, not only music but both! Movies have soundtracks as well with the all dancing, singing, crashes and bangs, along with rumbling lows quake damaging, whoops! Well maybe not quake damaging, but near enough! Depth of sound should have focus and total authority to the artists and mixers work, with faithful reproduction and transparency all around the listener, time and time again.


    So when you get around to committing yourself to the task of building a little home cinema, whether its basement, modifying the surroundings of the living room or building an extension onto the house, hope you get a brake at it.

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    I was looking at the post on (Evolution) where I was taking a look at one specific moment from the film, I noted the (dba and dbc) weighting levels (SPL) so I’m going to hath to make considerable modifications in the new home to reduce and keep the levels of the frequencies down too, respectful peaceful levels.

    I think, what I can do is reduce the low end on LCR fronts with a little reduction on the EQ that is (LF LCR) then note the differences, then look closely at the mid to high range, and very high frequencies, don’t practically penetrate though concrete that easily.

    Just as long as the fronts LCR have acceptable peak of 85dbc rather than 105, that should hopefully go unnoticed, same applies to the surrounds, if I can match the fronts LCR with a good frequency response that will merge with the surrounds, but!

    I have noticed that (surrounds) on some type of films tend to be quite loud sometimes, and since they don’t have there own DCX2496 for electronic crossover, at present I’m going to hath to tread very carefully.

    Sub bass extension will have to be greatly reduced down, along with LFE.1 via the two separate subs, I don’t know where or how there going to be fitted into a small room, I might end up with a small sofa and placing them behind or something other, as I tend to not only look at it form one point of view but several.

    Think three dimensionally, I’m on the top floor there will be nothing to the side of the flat, expect below? Is it a (person’s living room or bedroom)? And what type of person is that do they enjoy music themselves? How old is that person? What is there tolerance level like? All these factors to consider must be weighed and analyzed.


    Oh, there's just one other thing, I noticed it was very reflective the room that might, might be the home cinema room.

    Now that needs carpet not sure what type of carpet my dad has, but I’ll take it.

    Walls now that needs some type of treatment, what types of affordable DIY materials that are presently on hand? Now I’m not looking to stick bass traps in the room, that’s going to radically reduce the size of the room before I know it! So a slim absorbent like, material that can be attached to the walls without make a total palaver out of the situation, with a coloured fabric.

    All of the above is the last phase and the least of my worries, where and how do I fit the surrounds I’m stuck with x7 JBL control 1, at present and a few more I might buy a few more at (very) late date.

    Now I’ve seen surrounds successfully attached to the ceiling in one cinema that I started out many years ago, and they proved to work very well.

    But what of the (centre back) I can see it now, oh that doesn’t work very well, oh dear, take them down and start all over again! That I don’t want to do, so I hath to think, how do I get around the problem with a large (double glazed widow) on one side of the room?

    Do I attach MDF around it (securely) then that leaves the gaps around the fireplace? Now then, do I build a few (shelves) and find a way to fit (one surround side) to it with the next one fitted to the (chimney breast)? The widow area with MDF can be made easy to fit a few side surrounds.

    So with sides figured out and placed not to high up, angled downwards, it shouldn’t present a problem with the centre back, and if a sofa is installed it has to be at least a few feet away from the back wall, otherwise the front to back imaging, will be less than convincing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBL 4645 View Post


    a JBL loudspeaker should be a universal thing to enjoy, not only music but both!
    I belive you are absolutely right, point well made
    Just Play Music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krunchy View Post
    I belive you are absolutely right, point well made

    That came from the heart.

    Looks like the Mango Juice isn’t kicking in tonight, damn the (tinnitus). You know with all the DVD boxed up and laserdiscs and the CD, apart form a few boxes that I can get too, and pull out a favourite, I’m just not in the mood, about the only thing I was listening too late of last night was, Youtube. Space 1999 intro, DIE HARD the f^**(king short version! Madonna, Oh Father though the AUX lead input from pc to Kenwood AUX that is…

    It will take no more than a 1 hour to (disassemble) the entire JBL and audio system, fill the sidewalls up with polyfill, remove the JBL 2240 18” from the enclosure, this I will do upon the day that I move, practically over night.


    Disassemble? Not disassemble!

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    Good luck with the move my friend, I hope it goes smoothly
    Just Play Music.

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    Moving?? Well, probably good to get away from that home that burned last year.

    Are ya staying in Bournemouth?

    Good luck with the packing and moving, my friend - hope the next place is comfortable and safe for you!

    Quote Originally Posted by JBL 4645 View Post
    That came from the heart.
    It will take no more than a 1 hour to (disassemble) the entire JBL and audio system, fill the sidewalls up with polyfill, remove the JBL 2240 18” from the enclosure, this I will do upon the day that I move, practically over night.
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    Cheers Heather thanks I hope it is homely.

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    Battlestar Galactica in Sensurround

    My 1st posting here, but I thought the board my enjoy a blast from the past.
    I purchased an old 16mm reel of film, had in converted in to a PC video file. Posted this 1979 Sensurround TV spot for the release of Battlestar Galactica in theaters.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTjSckBBcHU

    I am a fan of the original Galactica and the new, and loved watching this release of Galactica in my local theater. The Sensurround speakers were massive, and the best sounding movie I have ever heard. I never had the chance to watch Earth Quake or any of the other movies released in that format. I also was lucky enough to speak with Peter Berkos, and a small interview also. Peter was the creator of most of the sound effects for Galactica including the nerve racking Sensurround audio. The movie runs about 2 hours in length, but the 5 reels of film took him 5 or 6 days to add the Sensurround sound effects. His nerves were racked at the end of 5 hours a day adding each bit heavy sound clips like laser blasting, or Viper launching.
    With that does anyone have a spare Sensurround speaker for sale?


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    welcome aboard...

    sensurround used several pairs of Cerwin Vega basshorns,
    Vega still makes a variant of these horns...

    you can also find earlier CV "earthquake" horns on the seconday market...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensurround

    good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by louped garouv View Post
    welcome aboard...

    sensurround used several pairs of Cerwin Vega basshorns,
    Vega still makes a variant of these horns...

    you can also find earlier CV "earthquake" horns on the seconday market...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensurround

    good luck!
    Thanks, great reference site.

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