Wow, the 4338 looks quite interesting ...
http://www.jbl.com/home/products/pro...at=BFS&ser=LSR
2ch: WiiM Pro; Topping E30 II DAC; Oppo, Acurus RL-11, Acurus A200, JBL Dynamics Project - Offline: L212-TwinStack, VonSchweikert VR-4
7: TIVO, Oppo BDP103D, B&K, 2pr UREI 809A, TF600, JBL B460
Sure, but flying to Tokyo with a $10K - $20K budget just isn't mainstream on the forum, I don't believe. We have to work DIY with what is available to us.
I'm not knocking any of it, of course, just stating an aesthetic preference, as others have done here. It's unlikely I'll ever see or hear the actual factory product, let alone Greg's personal system.
Well the Pro stuff is definitely available to anyone from a JBL Pro Dealer so I can understand that.
Keep in mind that the 1500AL, H4338, etc. are actually bought by JBL Consumer from JBL Pro so some of you guys might be able to work that angle somehow. Just a thought...
Anyway, this discussion of DIY is kind of off-topic. I'd really like to see a few forum members pick up some of these new systems. They are quite exciting.
2ch: WiiM Pro; Topping E30 II DAC; Oppo, Acurus RL-11, Acurus A200, JBL Dynamics Project - Offline: L212-TwinStack, VonSchweikert VR-4
7: TIVO, Oppo BDP103D, B&K, 2pr UREI 809A, TF600, JBL B460
The thing is Andy, they do bring them in but charge around £10K for them - and by doing so price them out of the market. They aren't competitive at that level. Having owned the 4338, that probably would be competitive if sold in the UK at Japanese prices + tax. It's a six or seven grand speaker in terms of overall quality - ableit with a character of it's own. Aestetically the 43 series would stand no chance in the UK. I do however think the S4600 could survive but only at the right price - not if Harman UK keep trying to profiteer.
The H4338 get's a lot of good press here which I have to say surprises me a little. With the benefit of hindsight is has a definate character - but that is one that makes pretty much everything you listen to enjoyable if you replace your audiophool sensibilities with those of a music lover. I think from the JBL perspective, buying a pair of 4338, then replacing the 435al with 435be and the 1500Fe with 1500al is about the top of the tree from a musical enjoyment POV.
So basically, they are bringing them in at such inflated prices that it virtually guarantees low volume sales. This is all screwed up.
Our Scottish member "WullieD20" is visiting a JBL dealer today. He was going to quiz them about the sad state of affairs re. JBL supply in the UK.
I think there is a market here for a speaker with a "refined rocker" sort of sound around £4-5k, i.e. a speaker that actually does bass for a change.
Hello AndyozI think there is a market here for a speaker with a "refined rocker" sort of sound around £4-5k, i.e. a speaker that actually does bass for a change.
What is the focus on your side of the Atlantic?? Here in the US it's HT with 2 channel a distant 2nd. Many speakers are manufactured with the intent of being used in an HT set-up with a dedicated LFE channel.
Do you have a similar HT boom there or is the focus mostly 2 channel??
Rob
I like the darker blue that these newer 43xx products are using .
It's a more modern look to my eyes .
Has anyone considered repainting the fronts of their 4345s ( 41s or 43s ) to this color ?
Hi,
I talked to the German Harman Specialty Distributor recently.
He told me that the S4600 will be available in Germany in a couple of months.
Currently no info about pricing, dealers, brochures etc is available.
Interesting,
Out of curiosity, I emailed a contact I have at Harmon in Japan. The reply was...
"Hello again Checking if Harman group in Europe will handle the product in near future.
If so, we cannot offer the product directly.
You may hear from HCI Europe office re the availability.
If the product will not be available anywhere else, let us re-consider re the issue."
Is this a change in thinking by Harmon. Power to the People!!
"Is this a change in thinking by Harmon."
This would be great.
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Peter
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