4354 - JBL Not

[JBL 4645]

That was like JBL porn those 4354 looked very nice.

[timc]

Incredible work. If they sound half as good as they look, you can be happy

[yggdrasil]

Great work, and gorgeous looking speakers.

[OLDGEN]

COOOOL

[Chas]

Stunning work, Rick. The moniker "Fat boys" is very appropriate and the proportions work very well visually, IMHO.

[Woody Banks]

You did it again Rick! Stunning work. The wooden John horns are a very practical solution and a beautiful highlight to a killer set of monitors.

[saeman]

Howdy Woody and thanks for your post. You also have a new project in the works. I saw some early drawings and pics but you need to post an update. I'm anxious to hear your wood horn evaluation.

Rick

[Robh3606]

Very nice speakers

Rob

[mech986]

Very nice work as usual!! Great concept, should be interesting to see how it turns out.

You might consider now adding handles to the inner edges of each grille and get the the icemaker/beer tap installed (or have a matching front facing designed onto your favorite real refrigerator).

Regards,

Bart

[scorpio]

Rick, I looked for the info but could not find it, did you ever post about the sonic results of the wooden horn in these beauties?

Thanks

[saeman]

Hi Scorpio:

Good timing on your post but you were looking for information that I have yet to post. The 4354's have become a permanent part of my main system; as permanent as I have seen in a long long time. I had hoped by now that there would be update info to post but not to date. I do believe the John W. wood horns sound very good. Problem is, I am still running this system on a pair of 3107 networks. But this will change in the next couple of days.

I received yesterday one of the final pairs of 3155 C.C. networks from 4313B. We are coming to the end of the first run for this network. I have gone without and forwarded previous pairs to other guys who were waiting. There are 2 more pairs on the bench near completion and that will be the end til after the 3145 adventure. So - the good timing of you post is - this weekend I will remove the 3107's and install the 3155's for evaluation. This will bring my system a step closer to completion. Currently the 2441s/wood horns are running on a network designed for the 2440 which we all know rolls off quite a bit lower than the 2441. This creates a significant hot spot at the high end of the 2441 and the 3107 has no l-pad to roll it back. I have been using an EQ to tame this down. Now I'll be able to listen to the horn/driver flat at the desired x-over point.

Beyond this I hope to get Giskard or some other all knowing and wise guru (with test equipment) to evaluate and help me set these speakers up properly. I suspect that there will be some fine tuning of the networks to accurately integrate the wood horn but this remains to be seen.

I'm 2 years into this pair but I can now see things starting to come together. I'll let you know more after this weekend. I've already auditioned the 3155 C.C. networks and I can say that they are a superior product but I now need to hear them with my super cool wood horns.

Rick

[scorpio]

Brilliant!, I'm really looking forward to the results of your evaluation.

Right now, i'm pondering if I should go towards using my current components with some additions from what's displayed in my avatar towards something like a 4344. The only difference with the true thing would be using a 2450 instead of the 1", and I would plan to use it with a short, stubby horn like the one you have.

Cheers

[tom1040]

Today is the first day I have seen your work. Superb. Those are a work of art. Man, I would love to hear them. Talent.

[scorpio]

Brilliant!, I'm really looking forward to the results of your evaluation.


Cheers

Hi, I'm persistent! and coming back at this... Did you manage to change the networks, and if so, any news for us?? I'm just in the middle of ordering some drivers from an esteemed member of this place, and am thinking again of a 2" based "4344 - Not"?

Thanks!

[saeman]

Hi, I'm persistent! and coming back at this... Did you manage to change the networks, and if so, any news for us?? I'm just in the middle of ordering some drivers from an esteemed member of this place, and am thinking again of a 2" based "4344 - Not"?

Thanks!

Thanks for the persistance Scorpio. As usual, I'm behind in updating threads that I have been involved with.

The C.C. 3155 networks have been in the cabinets for several months now. The difference between them and the stock 3107's is quite obvious. Prior to nstalling them there was a hugh hot spot in the mid range due to the 2441 being allowed by the 3107 to run out. With no L-Pad I was forced to EQ it down.

The new networks resolved that problem. They seem quite transparent and the system sounds wonderful. I lack the ability to run any curves on the system at this point but I hope to get some help in the near future.

These networks have proven to be a hands-down improvement over the stock 3155's when installed in the 4355. My system uses all 4355 components in cabinets of different geometry, but same internal volume. There's every reason for me to believe their performance is identical - less some slight difference in using the large walnut horn. This is what I need to evaluate with some test equipment in the future.

Rick