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    new loudspeaker cable

    i got realy tired by the continues discussion on loudspeaker cables. me too has spend severel hunderds of euros on speakercable. so i took on an experiment and connected my speakers with simple 50ct a meter installation wire. its about 6 mm2 and consists of 7 bare wires of about 0,75mm2 massife copper. the normal 6mm2 is way to stiff to handle.

    results are great. it doesnt sound better than expensive cable but it doesnt sound worse either. in fact its better than van den hull magnum cable of 30 euro's p/m. everything sounds just normal and neutral.

    what kind of cable do you guys use. and has anyone experimented with coax cable. it seems aircom makes a good coax cable for radio transmission. you just use the centre of the cable. and the rest makes a nice shielded mantel
    finally i have a pair of 604 8g's....there not easy to find in the netherlands

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    I use West Penn 2 conductor + ground, with foil shield, and Switchcraft and Neutrik connectors, works just fine for me. Matter of fact, I, several years ago, tried a few different expensive cables, some I didnt hear a difference, and some I did, but didnt like it.

    I agree, my inexpensive wire seems pretty neutral, and does only what it is supposed to! Get the signal from one place to another.

    I save my money for things I know do make a difference! The speakers and electronics.
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    on all the paper work for my 604's through the 755's the sheet advises lamp cord. And those are the exact words!! Honest. "simply split a small length of lampcord for the connection and then use as much as needed to split for the next"......???? Okay then.
    But I did the Phoenix gold phase back when,had a "friend" steal it all,then I just used spools of a good sized thickness. Uh,I did not find any "lampcord" available. Maybe we are all really missing out here and should get alot of "lampcord".

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    For 30 years or so, I have been using normal 1.5mm twin flex for my cables. If I am using a high powered amplifier I might use 2.5mm. It is very inexpensive compared to some brands of speaker cable and is a bit more upmarket than lampcord but the results on the pocket are very similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greyhound View Post
    what kind of cable do you guys use. and has anyone experimented with coax cable. it seems aircom makes a good coax cable for radio transmission. you just use the centre of the cable. and the rest makes a nice shielded mantel
    Generally coax is only called for if the signal is going to be amplified or in the case of radio transmission for a specific impedance.

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    Life's too short to mess with trying to run speakers on coax.

    It's a defined-purpose cable, and speakers aren't on the list.

    Yeah, it's "Wire," but there are other issues....

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    I've been using heavy duty extension cords with the AC connectors cut off - 10 gauge in my case. Found them at a contractor's sale at a local building supply house.

    There was some buzz some time back about Home Depot's cords but that was one of those 'internet frenzy' things, I suppose.

    Still, for the cost per foot, I can't find a more reasonable cost speaker connector in most any length I'd need and its really flexible, too.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by doodlebug View Post
    I've been using heavy duty extension cords with the AC connectors cut off - 10 gauge in my case. Found them at a contractor's sale at a local building supply house.

    There was some buzz some time back about Home Depot's cords but that was one of those 'internet frenzy' things, I suppose.

    Still, for the cost per foot, I can't find a more reasonable cost speaker connector in most any length I'd need and its really flexible, too.

    Cheers,

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    Cutting the AC connectors off is a good idea. More than one tragic incident has occurred when they have been left on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thom View Post
    Cutting the AC connectors off is a good idea. More than one tragic incident has occurred when they have been left on.
    I always thought leaving the AC plugs on would allow you to connect them direct to the source, i.e., the power grid. :shock:

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    Sound King

    Too bad SOUNDKING brand is no longer making 10ga/12ga/14ga speakerwire,I have used this brand for over 20+ years,Ive run 50 feet per channel,the 12ga-it had 320 strands/oxfree softbody cable,it really made a differents(to me)and after all those years it still in great shape,I also picked up monster cable brand at around the same time(14ga)and within 5 years it started discoloring(wire)/casing started to get sticky/hard.
    From the crossovers to the speakers I use 16ga standard 10 strand machine wire.the 3 different systems I use(JBL)have been wired this way for over 20 years with no problems ever.

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    This is what I use. Killer stuff. NO: 10 wire

    "Dayton Audio's SKRL speaker wire is designed to complement any high-end audio system. Oxygen free copper (OFC) is configured in a rope-lay configuration to minimize skin effect which causes high frequency roll-off. Clear, flexible PVC insulation withstands abuse and is rated up to 140°F (60°C). Convenient foot and positive polarity markings facilitate ease of use. Construction: 413 strands x 36 AWG per conductor. "

    http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=100-028
    Jeff-S1A

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    I remember seeing heavy duty electrical cable at the Warner Village cinema at Bristol’s 12 screen multiplex when I worked there during 1998. Now then it’s not as costly as some loudspeaker cable where there changing preposterous figures for 1m! Yeah I would go spare if someone ripped me off, what are they called Snake oil? Sounds like something from Escape from New York “call me snake.”

    At the moment I’m using “Gale SYMPHONY 100” at 0.69p a metre.


    http://www.richersounds.com/showproduct.php?cda=showproduct&pid=GALE-SYMPHONY-100

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    Quote Originally Posted by greyhound View Post
    i got realy tired by the continues discussion on loudspeaker cables.

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    So do I. But I'd say there is something to it - different cables that is - because I have heard improvements between cables, but they don't need to be expensive. I don't think one can reliably predict what cable will sound very good between which amp and speakers; it's a hit or miss thing at best.

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhound View Post
    what kind of cable do you guys use.
    XLO Ultra 6 to 4412's. Seems that these speakers like this cable over others I've used.

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    Belden 5T00UP 10ga speaker cable. Great stuff. Available form Blue Jeans Cable.

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    i was using some home depot two conductor sheilded wire until i came across a local installer that was liquidating their inventory...

    now i am using mostly west penn....

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