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    eBay Aftermarket Recone kits caveat.

    Can anyone tell me what's incorrect in this eBay Aftermarket recone kit listing.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ype=osi_widget

    There is key mis-information in this listing.

    What is it?

    I know at least a few members will know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edgewound View Post
    Can anyone tell me what's incorrect in this eBay Aftermarket recone kit listing.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ype=osi_widget

    There is key mis-information in this listing.

    What is it?

    I know at least a few members will know.
    This is not entirely correct:

    "The frame of the 2205, 2135, 2220, 2225, 2231A, 2235, D130, D140, E130, E140, K130, K140, LE15A and LE15B are all the same size.
    This means that you can recone anyone these frames to be a JBL D140 base speaker."

    The 2220 and LE15 frames/motors are different.

    David

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    Very nice, David.

    The same mis-info that is all too common when reconing JBL drivers.

    ...but they won't admit it's wrong...it just might sell more kits to the unknowing....because it still "works".
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    I'll give it a try:

    The frame of the 2205, 2135, 2220, 2225, 2231A, 2235, D130, D140, E130, E140, K130, K140, LE15A and LE15B are all the same size.
    This means that you can recone anyone these frames to be a JBL D140 base speaker.

    From the back of my memory - the 2220 is special. The pro's (2205, 2135, 2225, 2231, 2235) have different motors from the D, E and K series.

    A good reference can be found here: http://www.jblproservice.com/pdf/Goe...nto%20List.pdf
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    Damn - too late...
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    The 2235 and E140 are not the same either

    Our kits are manufactured by us in the U.S.A. using a jig / fixture that puts the edge wound voice coil, spider and cone to the proper depth every time.
    I don't think so. Not on all those frames.

    Rob

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    Mechanically interchangeable

    The LE15A/B, and 2220 are not mechanically interchangeable with the other frames listed.

    This is especially important when advertising the advantages of a preassembled kit....namely voice coil position in the gap!

    The 2235 and E140/E130 are mechanically interchangeable and listed as so in the JBL Manual. The bigger E-Series magnet will slightly alter the stock response of a 2235 installed kit....but the voice coil is in the correct position.
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    Deep throat / gap

    In order of increasing depth:

    2225 / DKE
    2220 / 2245 ( 18" )
    E145 / LE15

    Now if you want deep, look at the LE8..

    So one kit fits all huh??

    :o)

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    Quote Originally Posted by subwoof View Post
    In order of increasing depth:

    2225 / DKE
    2220 / 2245 ( 18" )
    E145 / LE15

    Now if you want deep, look at the LE8..

    So one kit fits all huh??

    :o)
    The E155 is also the same as 2240/2245
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    yupperoo

    I have (4) E155's reconed as 2245's. They are boatloads cheaper to buy due to the foilcal..:o)

    sub ( and I don't mean way )

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    There's also another more subtle error. He advertises it as a D140 kit... but has a 2225H type cone in the picture. D140 is NOT "rough-pulp" on the rear of the cone, nor does it have an M-roll surround (should be standard shallow accordion pleats).

    This is despite the fact, that decent aftermarket CORRECT-format D140 cones ARE available. You just have to know where to get them. It's not hard, if you're in the reconing business...

    Regards,
    Gordon.

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    There is no "CORRECT-format" aftermarket recone kit for a D140.

    That's because the correct recone kit for a D140 is C*RE140 from JBL.

    It's better in every way.
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    2225 recone

    Can an 8 ohm 2225 be reconed to 16 ohms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goff View Post
    Can an 8 ohm 2225 be reconed to 16 ohms?
    Yes.

    Factory Recone kit is C16R2225. $146.00 installed plus tax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edgewound View Post
    There is no "CORRECT-format" aftermarket recone kit for a D140.

    That's because the correct recone kit for a D140 is C*RE140 from JBL.

    It's better in every way.
    While I'm not aware of a correct aftermarket kit, to just blanket make this statement is more religion than fact. You can say that every kit you have experienced is incorrect, if that is the case, and express your doubt as to others, but you can't factually know that every aftermarket kit in the world is wrong. It is possible that they are, but you can't know it. What you have expressed is a religious conviction.

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