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Thread: Debate: JBL 250TI vs JBL L300 Summit

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    Debate: JBL 250TI vs JBL L300 Summit

    With the recent discussion of the L300's, I was just cururious to know other peoples opinion on the JBL 250TI vs JBL L300 Summit.

    Anyone care to start?



    I am of course biased -- 250TIs are the way to go. However, would a pair of L300's be just as good?

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    There is quite the different kind of sound from the L300 with 15s and a pair of compression drivers vs the 250 4-ways with TIs. You really ought to find someone with some L300s/4333s etc so you can hear what that kind of sound is like, and compare it to what you know from your "pyramids".

    Quote Originally Posted by Storm View Post
    With the recent discussion of the L300's, I was just curious to know other peoples opinion on the JBL 250TI vs JBL L300 Summit.

    Anyone care to start?



    I am of course biased -- 250TIs are the way to go. However, would a pair of L300's be just as good?

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    Two very different animals - which one is best depends on the listener's ears and music selection.

    One thing they do share is a wonderfully aesthetic design.

    As you can tell by my avatar, I'm an L300 fan, but I would not pass up a 250Ti if the opportunity presented itself. The 250Ti has newer drivers and a more advanced crossover, plus it's a four way. I might pass up an L300, but only because I'm building a DIY 4344.

    The 200 XPL and Performance Series would be better to compare to the 250 Ti.
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    I guess I'm partial as well.......I heard the 250's back when they first came out. I was impressed but wasn't floored. I like the "In your Face" forward sound from the L100, 200B, 300.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloatedpig View Post
    I like the "In your Face" forward sound from the L100, 200B, 300.
    Disqualified.

    L300 is not "forward."

    Big difference. With L300, JBL abandoned "West Coast" and never looked back.

    Listen again....
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    If the criteria is in a medium to large room in a house, integrated as a part of a more or less normal living environment, then the 250Ti hands down.

    If it's in the full-basement rec room, which is dedicated to partying and general carrying on, then probably the L300.

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    This sounds like another ongoing argument that could never end.

    Tastes great, less filling....250Ti.

    Tastes great, more satiating....L300
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    Quote Originally Posted by edgewound View Post
    Tastes great, less filling....250Ti.

    Tastes great, more satiating....L300

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    I stand corrected Zilch. You are indeed right. I am so used to the L100 sound that I connected all the late 70's speakers synonymously when they are indeed different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloatedpig View Post
    I stand corrected Zilch. You are indeed right. I am so used to the L100 sound that I connected all the late 70's speakers synonymously when they are indeed different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloatedpig View Post
    I stand corrected Zilch. You are indeed right. I am so used to the L100 sound that I connected all the late 70's speakers synonymously when they are indeed different.
    No problem. You have acquired a new and more mature taste, is all.

    "Bright" isn't too far from "Forward." The big differences are in the bass and treble....

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    And no one has talked about the obvious difference between the 250's and the 300's. Try this as a test: compare the two on music and then on movies. I am sure you will find the 250's shine on music but are average on movies and vice versa for the 300's. I run two pair of L150 clones in my home theatre now. I used to run compression drivers only by I started to tire of the "in your face" sound of 2425's and 2404's for music. So what I have done is to use the L150's in the front position for music and then when I play a movie, the LE5's and the 044's swap for a 2425/2470 and a 2404. The best of both worlds. See what you think.

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    Post jbl 250ti classic édition vs l300 summit/ 4333a

    I wanted to share with you my listening on the model 250TI "Classic Edition" compare to models before I got to know the l300 and 4333a and well for me 250TI go much further in terms of sound reproduction, they are much more balanced and accurate with a great soundstage and a much higher power handling for the 300 and 4333 I do not regret this purchase and for me an unbeatable value for money (1500euros / 2000 euros) compared to that in L300 worth 3500 euros ....

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    I've never even seen the L300 , but I've had 2 pairs of 250ti's and for me they do everything that I need. They are very musical and I don't use them for parties or movies...at abt $2K ..they seem to be a nice deal. and

    FOR ME
    ... a good sub does help them.

    IMHO those who don't appreciate them are prolly doing a demo with an underpowered amp source. I did try to run them on a 65wpc receiver and was not impressed. They are VERY happy with 375 wpc pushing them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Paul View Post
    Two very different animals - which one is best depends on the listener's ears and music selection. One thing they do share is a wonderfully aesthetic design. As you can tell by my avatar, I'm an L300 fan, but I would not pass up a 250Ti if the opportunity presented itself. The 250Ti has newer drivers and a more advanced crossover, plus it's a four way. I might pass up an L300, but only because I'm building a DIY 4344. The 200 XPL and Performance Series would be better to compare to the 250 Ti.


    After Paul wrote this, he has now heard the 250's ...any revision ?

    anecdotal addendum:

    When I bought my first 250ti's , the seller (a forum member) was also selling his 4343's ...of
    course I had to ask him that since both pairs had been playing in the same room on the same source gear,.....which he preferred ? His answer was "slightly like the 250's better, the horn sound was wearing to his ears"
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    Quote Originally Posted by fabrice11 View Post
    . . . for me 250TI go much further in terms of sound reproduction, they are much more balanced and accurate with a great soundstage and a much higher power handling for the 300 and 4333
    Not to perpetuate the resurrection of a five-year-old thread, but isn't the power-handling capability roughly the same except with the L300A having the higher sensitivity? Recommended maximum amplifier power for both is 400-watts. 250Ti is rated 90dB sensitivity and L300A is 93dB.

    Call me spoiled but the 4345s are rated for 400-watts on the bottom end with a sensitivity of 95db.
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