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  • JBL L300 Summit

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    Quote Originally Posted by hjames View Post
    You and I like our respective gear - the poll still wasn't for us ...
    And yet I see you voted!

    Hard to determine the OP's intent, but I would think you and I would be as likely to have an informed opinion comparing these two variants as nearly anyone here. Obviously less so than someone who's owned both, but we've both had plenty of listening time with each. I doubt the poll was just for those with both pair sitting side-by-side. My issue is that the poll pushes an either/or decision and the answer is not simply one or the other; there are too many variables. I suppose that's why it should go back to being just a dead thread.

    Looking at the results I see that someone named 250ti voted for . . . the 250ti.
    And someone who said within the thread that they've never seen an L300 also voted for the 250ti.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWCCA View Post
    And yet I see you voted!

    Hard to determine the OP's intent, but I would think you and I would be as likely to have an informed opinion comparing these two variants as nearly anyone here. Obviously less so than someone who's owned both, but we've both had plenty of listening time with each. I doubt the poll was just for those with both pair sitting side-by-side. My issue is that the poll pushes an either/or decision and the answer is not simply one or the other; there are too many variables. I suppose that's why it should go back to being just a dead thread.

    Looking at the results I see that someone named 250ti voted for . . . the 250ti.
    And someone who said within the thread that they've never seen an L300 also voted for the 250ti.
    Yet I have heard Marks 250TIs in a number of spaces and heard John's 4333s as well as my L200s back when they had 1 inch drivers,
    so I can vote, hey?... I have a preference in the vote part of this thread, I just didn't take sides in the verbal debate here,
    other than my reminder that 4 way pro speakers weren't part of the original Poll ...

    It is sort of weird tho - L300 3 way vs 4 way 250ti - It should probably be a 4 way vs 4 way Poll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4313B View Post
    The L300 won in the end. The S4700 and K2-S9900 are the latest versions of the venerable JBL 15-inch 3-way.
    4365 if Blue is your color of choice.
    Right - let me rush to Japan to find a deal so I can buy one a them blue puppies ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjames View Post
    Right - let me rush to Japan to find a deal so I can buy one a them blue puppies ...
    Europe might be closer.

    Anyway, who cares, just buy the parts and build your own.

    Oh wait...

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    L300 Family Generations?

    L300 to D315 to K2 S9900? Well, at least they each have three drivers (including a 15"), a cabinet, and a network.
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    L300 generations

    Thus:
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    250 Generations?

    L250 to 250Ti to 250Ti LE to XPL250* to TL260 to PT800/PS1400 stack to PT250*

    * not official products, obviously
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    250 Generations?

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    250 Generations?

    Probably not...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium Dome View Post
    L300 to D315 to K2 S9900? Well, at least they each have three drivers (including a 15"), a cabinet, and a network.
    I'm not sure why anyone would consider a D315 in the same family as an L300. It has no horns/compression drivers.

    The 4333/L300, 4338, S4600, 4365, S4700, S9800, S9900 are all high performance JBL 15-inch 3-way systems using medium efficiency low frequency transducers with high efficiency, high frequency and ultra high frequency compression drivers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium Dome View Post
    Probably not...
    They are L250 derivatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4313B View Post
    I'm not sure why anyone would consider a D315 in the same family as an L300. It has no horns/compression drivers.

    The 4333/L300, 4338, S4600, 4365, S4700, S9800, S9900 are all high performance JBL 15-inch 3-way systems using medium efficiency low frequency transducers with high efficiency, high frequency and ultra high frequency compression drivers.

    They are L250 derivatives.

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    Just having a little fun with regard to "venerable" 15 inch three-ways. JBL did make a few "non-venerable" three-ways, too.

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    Yes, they are L250 derivatives; that's part of the fascination. Thirty plus years later the shape lives on, both in official products and quirky experiments.

    I do recall a few folks building L300 repros, with the intent of having a clone, but I don't recall anyone taking an original L300 to utilize the cabinet in a meaningful attempt to get more out of it with updated drivers and networks. It's probably been done, it just doesn't come to mind. We do have a number of folks who built (or had built for them) 15"-based three-ways based on current cabinet design, and they do a heck of a job.

    I think I remember one project to build a 250 style cabinet, but that might have been on the French JBL site. When I decided to stick more current drivers into a 250 style cabinet, I thought about having the cabs built for maybe 30 minutes, then figured there were too many good cabinets around with beat-to-heck drivers in them that could be used instead of wasting the time, money, and wood. Plus, by using external electronic networks, we could leave the originals intact and return everything to normal if the experiment was a disaster.

    All of this gets far away from the 300 vs 250 original issue of five years ago, but these compare and contrast exercises are enjoyable and help to see both where we were and where we are with respect to JBL product design and development.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium Dome View Post
    Just having a little fun with regard to "venerable" 15 inch three-ways. JBL did make a few "non-venerable" three-ways, too.
    Yep, the S4800 immediately springs to mind.

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    [QUOTE=Titanium Dome;333010]Lazarus has risen from the dead;
    This post will a bit be off thread.
    ...."Still, hearing Ian Gillan screaming Space Truckin' on L300s is a guilty pleasure I would never turn down......" QUOTE]

    Amen to that.

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    JBL250TI-vs-JBL-L300

    250 ti are the best!!!!!!!!!!

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