4333 A restoration

[speakerdave]

. . . . I cut them with a spindle moulder ( not sure of the correct word, it's a part of a big woodworking machine ; it's like a fixed big router ). . . .

"Spindle moulder" says it. Also called a "shaper" in the U.S.

David

[spirou38]

"Spindle moulder" says it. Also called a "shaper" in the U.S.

David

Thank you David

[spirou38]

And now they are in use, with the slant plates but without the front grills :

... to be continued

[spirou38]

And with Zilch cloth :

Many thanks to Zilch for the cloth and the "gluing cloth user's guide".

Pascal

... that's all for the moment !

[hjames]

And what a gorgeous project it is!!

Enjoy that - its fine looking work & no doubt sounds real nice too!

[spirou38]

As I was asked to upload the pictures in the LH forum, I did it and you can now find all the pictures in messages 18 to 22.

But I don't know how to edit my first 2 messages for removing the pictures links and inserting a new text like above . Somedy can help me or do it ?

[shaansloan]

Now, you just have to sand and finish. I put 6 coats of a mix of ¼ turpentine 3/4 Tung oil and earth pigments to get the color, and finally 2 coats of pure Tung oil. Pascal

Does anyone know the exact recipe for the 4333 finish? Here Pascal says he used "earth pigments"....does anyone know what that is or how much?

Please let me know....

Thanks,
Shaan

[tomee]

Very nice work! Good description of how you did it - I think your english is just fine!

Could we see a picture of that turntable that sits on top of the JBLs - an EMT perhaps? I think JBL fans can appreciate quality even if it's not a speaker.

edit: I see I'm replying to a year old thread! pardon me...

[JBLCanuck]

It appears nobody knows Shaan...I've asked the same question many times but never gotten a straight answer. JBL used 2 finishes at least. If you read the threads on this forum, it appears most think the lacquer finish stopped in the 70's yet I'm pretty darn sure my 4333A's have their original finish & it sure looks & feels like lacquer.
I'm pretty sure they used a stain under the lacquer/oil but the only thing I've ever heard on here is to use Watco. Watco...Watco is a brand & they have many, many colors?
Most guys restoring JBL's don't fully strip their cabinets & so re-oiling or using a finish restore product looks just fine but I'll experiment with my 4345 project & come up with some answers here for you...or try
I just can't picture the JBL oil formula with no color added before hand giving that nice redish tint that all vintage JBL's seem to have.
It would just be nice to hear what product guys have used in the past & then a picture of the results...no? :dont-know
Is it a secret or do these characters only know electronics?

Does anyone know the exact recipe for the 4333 finish? Here Pascal says he used "earth pigments"....does anyone know what that is or how much?

Please let me know....

Thanks,
Shaan

[JBLCanuck]

By the way....no offense intended to spirou38...your work looks spectacular & if I'm hearing you correctly, you've added dye to the mixture to give the desired color. I think what Shaan & I are looking for is a shortcut so that we don't have to spend 40hrs experimenting with pigment.
Call us lazy
This may very well be the route I go as well but I usually use Mohawk dye & so if I do...I'll try to document how much & exactly what I've mixed because several people are in the same boat as Shaan & I here.
So is it common belief here that most of the big blue monitors had an oil finish & not lacquer?

[Audiobeer]

I've always used a coat of walnut paste filler on my the 4333's I had. I started with Mimwax Golden oak. Then a couple of light sanding sealer coats. Scuff sanded with 320 then used a coat of Walnut paste filler.

[JBLCanuck]

Interesting....never heard of it?
Who makes it?

I've always used a coat of walnut paste filler on my the 4333's I had. I started with Mimwax Golden oak. Then a couple of light sanding sealer coats. Scuff sanded with 320 then used a coat of Walnut paste filler.

[JBLCanuck]

Here you go Shaan....this Blue was matched to my 4301's but as I said, I suggest adding a touch of white to lighten it up slightly. I did & it has worked well for me.
Good Luck!

[Mr. Widget]

Here you go Shaan....this Blue was matched to my 4301's but as I said, I suggest adding a touch of white to lighten it up slightly. I did & it has worked well for me.
Good Luck!

JBL has not been entirely consistent in their "JBL Blue". Over the years there have been several slight variations and the current Japan Only 43XX systems are significantly darker.


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[Audiobeer]

http://www.mlcampbell.com/secured/pi...D%20FILLER.pdf

Follow up with a flat Laquer suff with 500 and steel 000 steel wool and you get a very natural finish.

Interesting....never heard of it?
Who makes it?