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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilch View Post
    so I'm working on a "tower" configuration right now....
    I'd just do an L150 or S4600 type box.

    I'm waiting for someone with 240Ti's to start a thread about how they replaced the 104H and 044Ti with a waveguide and 2452H-SL.

    After that maybe a pair of 250Ti's...

    We can fix all these old loudspeakers now!

    No more 066's? Not a problem. Demo saw those 4313 baffles for the 12 x 12 waveguide and call it done! This is pretty exciting stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4313B View Post
    I'd just do an L150 or S4600 type box.
    Yup.



    Quote Originally Posted by 4313B View Post
    Demo saw those 4313 baffles for the 12 x 12 waveguide and call it done! This is pretty exciting stuff.
    Well, no, but I'm not having a lot of issues with reworking $10 thrift store ARs, KLHs or Advents using JBL drivers and waveguides.

    [Well, not HERE, at least.... ]

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    Quote Originally Posted by macaroonie View Post
    Yup I got the strong stuff -- 25% and my expert says not a prob just watch what is going on. May have to re orientate speaker in the tent. Thanks for your input, its all welcome.
    For those here not familiar with Fuming....be very very careful.
    Macaroonie is obviously an accomplished woodworker & knows what he's doing but for a rookie, fuming with ammonia is very dangerous.
    I have been fuming oak furniture for many years & I've had many close calls.
    You can't use regular store bought ammonia...you need 20% anhydrous ammonia as Macaroonie stated above.
    First...it's hard to get. The government has placed lots of restrictions in getting your hands on it. When you go to buy it...expect lots of questions because it's most common use these days is making meth & crack!
    Next, you really need a proper respirator for ammonia. If you haven't used this stuff you just won't be able to understand this or you'll think I'm being an old grandma...but this stuff WILL overcome you & will KILL you.
    The first time you get a wiff of this stuff you'll understand....your nose will burn for hours. Usually setting up your tent is the easy part...get prepared & while holding your breath, pour a couple trays of ammonia & slide under.
    Removing the tent is the real dangerous issue. I've literally had to run for the door & can remember not thinking I was going to make it.
    This is bad stuff & I just want to be sure that proper precaution is taken by anyone fixin to try this.
    It's a great way to darken Oak but more than anything, it opens the pores of the Oak & enables you to get a much darker finish with stain while getting a beautiful contrast in the grain without becoming muddy like conventional staining.
    Be very respectful of this stuff & you'll love the results on white oak

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    I'm waiting for someone with 240Ti's to start a thread about how they replaced the 104H and 044Ti with a waveguide and 2452H-SL.
    LOL ... don't ask me why I ended up on this old thread, but this comment from 4313B cracked me up... Last night, as I listened to
    and looked at my finally completed 240Ti set and started thinking about the M2 horn and 2452H"Be" set...
    Well, you can imagine what direction the pondering went.

    Anyone have a pair of beater 240Ti cabs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpy View Post
    LOL ... don't ask me why I ended up on this old thread, but this comment from 4313B cracked me up... Last night, as I listened to
    and looked at my finally completed 240Ti set and started thinking about the M2 horn and 2452H"Be" set...
    Well, you can imagine what direction the pondering went.

    Anyone have a pair of beater 240Ti cabs?
    Not wide enough for the M2 wave thingy. PT HF 1010 fits though and looks like it will cover the existing cutouts.
    LE14 H-x is such a nice bass driver , add your own spice.

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    Still looks doable (barely):
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    But would have to drop LE14 30mm or so
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    Ah I miss Zilch. The Zilch towers in post 152 are what turned me onto the waveguide sound.

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    Indeed.

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    Well, Zilch would have cut off the perimeter flange leaving the flare only thereby allowing a fit.
    Carefully rebated at the side edges and with some nifty bondo deftly applied to fill the top and bottom .... Bit of paint to make good

    I'd say you are on to something there. Out of curiosity what are the dimensions of the flare only ?

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    There's just a few mm to spare on each side; would be easy to accidentally blow out the side.
    Didn't give it much more than a ponder, as I'm not carving up my working 240Ti's , but the
    form factor is nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macaroonie View Post
    Hi all at last I am ready to start building my final solution speakers.
    Mac, this was a very well documented DIY process, but I have one question. How many speakers have you acquired since finishing your final solution speakers. I look forward to your next build.

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    None actually other than PA related boxes. Having said that the M2 concept intrigues me. I could very easily convert those boxes to M2 stylee by putting in a new baffle , move the bass driver up and maybe carve a M2 wave thingy from wood. It's just a shade on the big side as is although I could do as I suggested to Grumpy.
    Pricey over here though when you factor in taxes and shipping.

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    what are the dimensions of the flare only ?
    ah, without the border... Will have to check the back for mounting, but I'll measure tonight.
    If they were cheaper, I wouldn't mind modifying them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpy View Post
    Anyone have a pair of beater 240Ti cabs?
    I'm sure you saw these on 'bay Grumpy?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/291569703922

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