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    Poor Mans 4343 Clone

    I was just listening to my L96s wondering if they could morph into something resembling (a stretch) 4343Bs. All L96 drivers are repurposed with the LE10s in a 0.5 cu ft box for mid bass. What would driver would you consider for the bass? Looking at my collection of baskets, I could recone E-155s to 2240s (yeah, overkill).
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    Oops. That should be 4315s vs 4343Bs

    Quote Originally Posted by tinnitus View Post
    I was just listening to my L96s wondering if they could morph into something resembling (a stretch) 4343Bs. All L96 drivers are repurposed with the LE10s in a 0.5 cu ft box for mid bass. What would driver would you consider for the bass? Looking at my collection of baskets, I could recone E-155s to 2240s (yeah, overkill).

    Change 4343 to 4315. Incorrect similar to comparison.
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    Do you not have a pair of 2245’s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinnitus View Post
    Change 4343 to 4315. Incorrect similar to comparison.

    Le14a's or Le14H's ( not Le14H-1's or 3's due to their lower efficiency ) are my choice when using le10's as a midbass.

    The le10a ( or h ) has a lower impedance than the le14a with the net result being the same loudness when they are paired together.


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    Crossover? Could he do 600Hz to 2000Hz with an LE10? Or is there a better sweet spot?

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    2245s

    Quote Originally Posted by 1audiohack View Post
    Do you not have a pair of 2245’s?

    Barry
    I do have a pair. I think the cab volume would be enormous, the sensivity too high and they are subs. I was looking at LE14s thinking they might work or try to pull the 128s out of my L112s or the 128/PR300 combo out of my L150s. I read an old thread where 2214s replaced the 128s in a L150 and the bass improved.

    Building a box is no problem. Getting the XO working is where I’d need help.
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    Yeah but you mentioned the E155-2240 and, well, you know, overkill being barely adequate and all,,,

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    Years ago, I set a pair of L96s on home-brew SUB1500 cabs and biamped the lot.
    It was a quite pleasing setup and got the L96s off of the floor. IIRC, it was just a
    LR 24dB/oct crossover set at or below (likely) 80Hz.

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    I would simply cross the L96 over at 100-150 hertz to the 2245s

    That is exactly what l did with my rcf 3 way 12 inch monitors (poor mans 4411&#12855120 years ago with a crown active crossover.

    Once you do that then consider the next steps?

    I put some 2397s on top and triamped the whole mess.

    (The soft dome mids and tweeters in the rcfs were not dynamic enough)

    I then added 2405s ........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Mackenzie View Post
    I would simply cross the L96 over at 100-150 hertz to the 2245s

    That is exactly what l did with my rcf 3 way 12 inch monitors (poor mans 4411&#12855120 years ago with a crown active crossover.

    Once you do that then consider the next steps?

    I put some 2397s on top and triamped the whole mess.

    (The soft dome mids and tweeters in the rcfs were not dynamic enough)

    I then added 2405s ........
    Whoa! That’s grander than I imagined. I LIKE IT! So y’all are suggesting I place a 100Hz high pass filter prior to the L96 network? Ok.

    is there a minimum baffle size/area needed for drivers? I was looking at a picture and got an idea to break up the drivers and house them in their own enclosures, .5 cu ft for the LE5s & LE10s. If I rearranged them I could wind up with this:

    the 044 doesn’t need an enclosure but baffle size?
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    Why not leave your L96 entact for the moment.

    Or make a 5 sided cavity in the woofer box to side the L96 into

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    The crossover for the L96 was designed and tweaked for those driver positions on the baffle so l would not change the driver locations without first testing what your new layout did to the presentation

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