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    Software needed...

    Hi all,

    I`m looking for a design software for frequency networks.

    Which do you use/prefer? What is the best (from the technical side)?

    Thank you

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    Re: Software needed...

    Originally posted by Ralf
    Hi all,

    I`m looking for a design software for frequency networks.

    Which do you use/prefer? What is the best (from the technical side)?

    Thank you

    Ralf
    Hi Ralf,

    I use "Microcap".
    With this you can virtualy try nearly all electronics and also networks for crossovers.

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    Re: Re: Software needed...

    Originally posted by Hofmannhp
    Hi Ralf,

    I use "Microcap".
    With this you can virtualy try nearly all electronics and also networks for crossovers.

    HP
    Hi HP,

    I have seen the prices for Microcap 7 - $3995

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    Hi Ralf, may you can take a look at
    http://www.gnu.org/software/electric/

    probably it fits not to all the things one expect as a professional user but it is free/open source. It runs on any UNIX@Motif, Mac and Windows.

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    Re: Re: Re: Software needed...

    Originally posted by Ralf
    Hi HP,

    I have seen the prices for Microcap 7 - $3995

    Uuuuups!
    Hi Ralf,

    Look at "spectrum-software" there a evaluation shareware for zero bucks. No. 7.2.4

    it works fine

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    There are 2 affordable programs that will allow you to measure your drivers response in cabinets, design passive or active networks, optimize the networks and even audition them with computer simulations before building them. The most basic version, LspCAD standard, won't allow you to actually listen to the crossover before you build them but it only cost $129. Here is the link http://www.ijdata.com/

    SoundEasy v. 8 is available for $225 and is very powerful software. It will allow you to do all of the things mentioned above. The equivalent version of LspCAD Pro will set you back $495. Here is the link for the description of SoundEasy http://www.interdomain.net.au/~bodzio/

    One advantage of LspCAD is that all of the updates to the program have been free, so far. Both of these programs will produce nearly identical results and several commercial companies have purchased them.

    An older program is called Calsod, but it requires you to have separate measurement software, and I think it still only runs in DOS. It hasn't been updated in a while.

    LEAP is probably still the most advanced program you can buy, but it will set you back $1495.

    Both programs also have support groups that the designers participate in on Yahoo. Both programs will require you to buy at least a microphone and possibly a preamp for doing measurements.

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    ?

    Does anybody use the Xover Pro and can tell me something about?
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    Re: ?

    Originally posted by Ralf
    Does anybody use the Xover Pro and can tell me something about?
    Does really nobody use this program?
    I can`t believe...
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    feedback on xover pro

    Here is some feedback posted by Rick Craig, a speaker designer and enthusiast from the Madisound discussion board

    RICK: "That was the first crossover program that I used. The graphics are nice and the manual is excellent; however, LsPCad is really a much better program with measurement capability. XoverPro falls short because it has no way to import phase and impedance measurements. Both of them are critical to getting good results."

    I forgot to mention Speaker Workshop. It is a free program that allows you to import impedance, phase, and amplitude data, all of which are necessary for accurate crossover modeling. Here is the link http://www.audua.com/SW/Feature%20Summary.htm

    For the money LspCAD standard is the best buy at $129.
    I would suggest downloading the demo of LspCAD here http://www.ijdata.com/ to see how easy it is to use. SoundEasy is arguably a more powerful program, but it requires more effort to get started.

    I also would recommend reading this article http://www.ijdata.com/ugly_duckling.pdf
    that walks you through the whole process of designing a speaker system using LspCAD.

    There is also a manual written by John K at the bottom of the Soundeasy wed site http://www.interdomain.net.au/~bodzio/

    To conclude, Xover Pro will work for getting you a ballpark crossover design, but both LspCAD and SoundEasy have more complete simulation and will provide more accurate results.
    Last edited by TimG; 02-04-2004 at 11:47 AM.

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    Hi TimG,

    thank you for your infos. I will try to download the evalution versions of the mentioned programs and will compare it.

    Greetings

    Ralf
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    Re: Software needed...

    Last edited by 4313B; 02-08-2004 at 01:00 PM.

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    Re: Re: Software needed...

    Originally posted by Giskard
    Here's another site along with links that might be useful.

    http://hem.passagen.se/johnygre/ENG/main.htm

    http://hem.passagen.se/johnygre/ENG/links.htm

    ***

    And another.

    http://members.chello.se/jpo/softwares.html
    Also to Giskard a 'thank you'.

    I did not know that there is a so large selection...
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