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    4333a's

    Hi Guy's and Gal's

    got my eye on a pair of 4333a's. What would a 2234 sound like in there? The summits were the first Jbl I ever heard
    Rich

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    Quote Originally Posted by richluvsound View Post
    Hi Guy's and Gal's

    got my eye on a pair of 4333a's. What would a 2234 sound like in there? The summits were the first Jbl I ever heard
    Rich
    Do it and measure. Report your findings here....

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    Sure, no problem!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zilch View Post
    Do it and measure. Report your findings here....
    Hi Zilch,
    if i had your skills and knowledge I would. But, if you want to help me learn more about I'll do my best .
    Rich

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    Quote Originally Posted by richluvsound View Post
    Hi Guy's and Gal's

    got my eye on a pair of 4333a's. What would a 2234 sound like in there? The summits were the first Jbl I ever heard
    Rich
    The 2234 is as far as I know the 2235 without the mass-ring. It would not be good in a 4333. Different mass etc. ask the ones more knowledge than me about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolf View Post
    The 2234 is as far as I know the 2235 without the mass-ring. It would not be good in a 4333.
    Absolutely... you would end up with a system that was rather bass shy and with far too much lower midrange emphasis. If the goal is to accurately reproduce music, you would have a far less satisfactory system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zilch View Post
    Do it and measure. Report your findings here....



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    Hello Rich

    Widgets right you will unbalance the lower mids and be a bit bass shy in comparison to stock. When you loose the mass ring you get 3db more output up top.

    Rob

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    OK, I'll play devil's advocate... briefly.

    If one were to biamp and EQ, perhaps retune the cabinet a bit,
    you could end up with something still fairly nice/usable. Not for the
    faint of heart, time, and resources. Did this for awhile with 4430's,
    but went further and added the 2nd 2234, rolled off ala 4435 which I
    like even better. Your taste may vary.

    If the question was related to already so modified 4333a's, seems like
    adding a mass ring would be a simpler path to success.

    -grumpy

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    2235-2234

    thanks guys,

    I have 2 extra 2235 jbl recone kits , so I was thinking about whether or not to leave the mass rings out . You have answered that Q . Would 2235 work better ? I'm grateful for your help, I can only learn from asking Q's even if they are rather sophmoric.
    Cheers, Rich

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    Quote Originally Posted by richluvsound View Post
    Would 2235 work better ? I'm grateful for your help, I can only learn from asking Q's even if they are rather sophmoric.
    If you were a long time reader of these discussion forums, you'd have read about this subject a couple of times already... however as the threads tend to meander around quite a bit I can understand why you may not have found your answer in a search.

    Anyway, in answer to your question. The 2235H is the JBL recommended replacement for your 4333s. It should be quite satisfactory. If you want to read up on it including members' listening impressions and actual experiences do some more searching... you may also stumble upon some other interesting reading.


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    Thank you

    I do get frustrated trying to find stuff, but i dont give up .
    thanks again.

    Rich

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    I put a 2235 cone in one of my 2231 baskets and listened to both (in 4333's)..the new one was a bit tighter right off, but for all intents and purposes, sounded the same..I went ahead and did the other one..no regrets!

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    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Rinkerman View Post
    I put a 2235 cone in one of my 2231 baskets and listened to both (in 4333's)..the new one was a bit tighter right off, but for all intents and purposes, sounded the same..I went ahead and did the other one..no regrets!
    Thanks Tim,
    yours and Widgets answers are just what I'm looking. Now for the ebay battle!
    Rich

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    Not to leave you lost in searching

    You can use:
    2205, 2225, 136, 2231, 2234, 2235 Baskets

    Avoid the Alnicos as they need remag most of the time. I'm telling from experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guido View Post
    You can use:
    2205, 2225, 136, 2231, 2234, 2235 Baskets

    Avoid the Alnicos as they need remag most of the time. I'm telling from experience.
    To clarify Guido's post... you can use any of the "H" or "J" versions of these drivers as a core to be reconed with the 2235 kits.

    You may also use the "A" or "B" versions but they will be the older alnico versions which may require a recharge. In addition, the alnico versions are not exactly like the ferrite versions sonically, but they are quite similar.


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