Received woofers yesterday. Luckily bribed a coworker for a rde home at lunch since they are too heavy to carry on the subway/bus/walk home. Finally about midnight I attempted install.

Original mounting screws are too short. The mounting holles are the same location but the lip is almost a 1/4 -1/2 inch thicker.

Also noted that surround sticks out past the frame so laying them face down is no longer accetpable...which also may make the grill interfer with them. I didn't finish checking, needed a 3rd hand

I bought longer (silver ) screw at the hardware store this morniing, 2nd attempt tonight

Mark